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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

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    I was responding to a overtly 'partisan' assertion, that intolerance is a particularly liberal trait. I'm not sure what your point is since I wasn't responding to you. If you keep it non-partisan, I'll try to do the same.
    I'm just pointing out the obvious. It's the same few people in every thread. I'm just saving you time.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    I hope the Left keeps this up. What a great way to isolate and marginalize their agenda by pissing off a vast majority of Americans.

    You would have thought they would have learned their lesson back when they attacked Phil Robertson.
    As is always the case, no mater if right, left or center, when one feels righteous and morally superior, learning from experience and listening to dissenting points of view seems to go out the window.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    From what I've read there is a concern about the disconnect between his support of LGBT rights in the workplace, and funding changes to the Constitution intended to discriminate against those employees in their private lives. And I think it was a problem that he never did disavow his support for those efforts to discriminate against them in the public arena.

    And I saying they "wanted to punish" Eich for supporting efforts to strip their rights isn't really it - they didn't want a man who wanted to strip them of their rights, their relationships forever second class, as the public face of their company.
    Wow! So now, we have to not only accept what you want to consider "rights", but, have to grovel, and apologize publicly....Nice....Should we all wear scarlet letters too?
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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I'm not Jack so you have to ask him.

    I personally was very interested in the opinions of a man who has been gay for many years and who has been discussing gay rights for many years.
    That's fine but Jack's response to my post makes zero sense.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    That's fine but Jack's response to my post makes zero sense.
    I'm not Jack so I can't answer.

    It would benefit everyone to read Sullivan's piece if they want to get the point of view of a man who has been writing about gay rights for years but I support everyone's right to not care about it.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    As is always the case, no mater if right, left or center, when one feels righteous and morally superior, learning from experience and listening to dissenting points of view seems to go out the window.
    Only, that's not the case and is a typical strawman.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I'm not Jack so I can't answer.

    It would benefit everyone to read Sullivan's piece if they want to get the point of view of a man who has been writing about gay rights for years but I support everyone's right to not care about it.
    Jack gave me that response to my "protest is the opposite of suppression" post. I doubt Andrew Sullivan has much to do with it. I guess I'll just have to await his response which I'll gladly do.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    And from what I've read, he never did anything in the workplace to infringe on the rights of LGBT employees, in his own particular staff or otherwise.
    Well, he wasn't CEO, and are their private lives irrelevant - all that should matter to them is how they're treated from 9-5?


    Where was their outcry against the 7 out of 10 blacks in California who also opposed their right to marry in 2008? A little consistency in the target of their outrage would have been nice.
    That's unfair - they have to protest ALL opponents at the same time they protest one particularly high profile one? Or, which of those 7 of 10 was appointed CEO without protest?

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    Well, he wasn't CEO, and are their private lives irrelevant - all that should matter to them is how they're treated from 9-5?




    That's unfair - they have to protest ALL opponents at the same time they protest one particularly high profile one? Or, which of those 7 of 10 was appointed CEO without protest?
    No, he was CTO, and as CTO was responsible had a very large number of company employees report up to him.

    So then they just wanted him to lose his job I guess, since there is no evidence that he negatively impacted anyone's job at Mozilla in all his years there, even though he wasn't concerned with what they did on their non-work time. Wait - are you saying managers are supposed to worry about their employees' personal time too? That's a new one. So managers are now responsible for employees' private lives and what goes on in their private lives? Can managers have a say in their employees' private lives too?

    Okay, so nobody protested the black bigots when they opposed gay marriage. I get it now.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Wow! So now, we have to not only accept what you want to consider "rights", but, have to grovel, and apologize publicly....Nice....Should we all wear scarlet letters too?
    Not "grovel" but publicly stating he no longer supports the state enforcing a second class citizenship for them in their time outside work would be nice.

    I get you don't respect the position of LGBT here, but that's not the point. If the rights were important to you, would you accept a CEO dedicated to stripping them? For example, should an org with evangelical roots accept a CEO dedicated to abortion on demand in public, even IF at work the health plan doesn't cover abortion or contraception? That in the narrow confines of the workplace, he supports an anti-abortion stance, but has a different public stance?

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