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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Protest is the opposite of suppression.
    "Will he now be forced to walk through the streets in shame? Why not the stocks? The whole episode disgusts me – as it should disgust anyone interested in a tolerant and diverse society. If this is the gay rights movement today – hounding our opponents with a fanaticism more like the religious right than anyone else – then count me out. If we are about intimidating the free speech of others, we are no better than the anti-gay bullies who came before us."
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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Well, are you really trying to put forth the argument that "they did it too" justifies your own support of intolerance? That is IMHO, weak.

    What has happened supposedly to "Log cabin Republican's" or to an editor for writing an editorial, doesn't justify an outside group pressuring a company to fire someone for donating to a cause, 10 years ago, that they don't like.

    The two are not comparable in a rational sense.
    You specifically targeted liberals for their intolerance for dissenting views. If you want to make it partisan, should examples of intolerance, and they are many, of conservatives for dissenting views be ignored?

    Here's your quote: "This story just shows the level of intolerance liberals display against dissenting opinions...." Firing a decade or two writer over ONE article shows tolerance for dissenting views about matters important to conservatives? Banning a gay group from a political gathering shows GOP tolerance for dissenting opinions?

    I think the "not comparable" there means when you AGREE with those showing intolerance, it's all righteous and good. When you disagree with those being intolerant, not so much.

    And I believe we should all be tolerant of differing opinions, but no one should be tolerant of others trying to strip rights important to us, through the law. I've said this 10 times on this thread that there is a difference in being opposed to SSM (a different opinion), and donating to a cause that attempts to strip LGBT rights and enshrine second class status to their relationships in the Constitution (an act to strip someone of their rights). If the CEO attended a conservative church that refused to marry gay people, but didn't attempt to prevent the STATE from recognizing ANY gay marriage, LGBT and their supporters should tolerate that difference.

    If some group tries to strip you of rights dear to you, I'd expect you to be VERY intolerant of those attempts - you can and should fight their efforts to the best of your ability.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I love that the free market spoke. And I will embrace it when the free market works the other way and executives get pressure when it's revealed that a person gave money to a group that opposed Proposition 8.
    Given the trend of opinions on this topic, I wouldn't hold my breath.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    I wasn't a member here in 2008. Were there this many people calling the blacks in California bigots for opposing gay marriage since 70% of them did?

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Wow. 7 in 10 black voters supported Proposition 8 in the 2008 election.

    The same voters who turned out strongest for Barack Obama also drove a stake through the heart of same-sex marriage

    Those bigots.

    Most of California's Black Voters Backed Gay Marriage Ban

    I'm sure the Cupid site called for a mass boycott of black owned businesses in California, but it musn't have made the news.
    Prop 8 Myths | FiveThirtyEight

    And don't say "wow," as if this is something you've just now "discovered." So full of it.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Thank you for the link, but I don't see anything in there that contradicts the Washington Post claim that 7 out of 10 blacks supported Prop 8, making them bigots. He says that "exit polls suggest" that 6.2 out of 10 were bigots instead of 7 out of 10.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    "Will he now be forced to walk through the streets in shame? Why not the stocks? The whole episode disgusts me – as it should disgust anyone interested in a tolerant and diverse society. If this is the gay rights movement today – hounding our opponents with a fanaticism more like the religious right than anyone else – then count me out. If we are about intimidating the free speech of others, we are no better than the anti-gay bullies who came before us."
    --Andrew Sullivan
    Right, because the bullies are the ones protesting those funding laws that suppress their right. Welcome to America were protest is allowed.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    You specifically targeted liberals for their intolerance for dissenting views. If you want to make it partisan, should examples of intolerance, and they are many, of conservatives for dissenting views be ignored?

    Here's your quote: "This story just shows the level of intolerance liberals display against dissenting opinions...." Firing a decade or two writer over ONE article shows tolerance for dissenting views about matters important to conservatives? Banning a gay group from a political gathering shows GOP tolerance for dissenting opinions?

    I think the "not comparable" there means when you AGREE with those showing intolerance, it's all righteous and good. When you disagree with those being intolerant, not so much.

    And I believe we should all be tolerant of differing opinions, but no one should be tolerant of others trying to strip rights important to us, through the law. I've said this 10 times on this thread that there is a difference in being opposed to SSM (a different opinion), and donating to a cause that attempts to strip LGBT rights and enshrine second class status to their relationships in the Constitution (an act to strip someone of their rights). If the CEO attended a conservative church that refused to marry gay people, but didn't attempt to prevent the STATE from recognizing ANY gay marriage, LGBT and their supporters should tolerate that difference.

    If some group tries to strip you of rights dear to you, I'd expect you to be VERY intolerant of those attempts - you can and should fight their efforts to the best of your ability.
    Nearly every issue is partisan to a few in here.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Right, because the bullies are the ones protesting those funding laws that suppress their right. Welcome to America were protest is allowed.
    Andrew Sullivan was merely offering his opinion as a gay man. I don't think he ever said anywhere in his full piece that he opposes protest.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Tell that to the Family Research Council. They often boycott or threaten to boycott pro-gay businesses.

    More FRC Hypocrisy: Only Conservatives Should be allowed to Boycott Companies | Right Wing Watch

    Tell that to Townhall writer John Hawkins.

    5 Corporations That Should Be Blacklisted By Conservatives - John Hawkins - Page 1

    Tell that to Breitbart's Ben Shapiro.

    Ben Shapiro boycotts Nabisco over Sharpton ad | The Daily Caller

    Oh, that's right. Only "the left" puts pressure on companies to divorce themselves from politically contentious people or organizations.
    Seems that the left groups have a 10:1 ratio in boycott efforts. But I could be wrong. Could it be that only the leftist boycott actions are significantly covered in the media? To garner more support? Might have something to do with that.

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