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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    This story just shows the level of intolerance liberals display against dissenting opinions....
    Yes, that's a good point, because conservatives are famously tolerant types.

    GOProud and the Log Cabin Republicans will not be participating in the annual Conservative Political Action Conference, top executives from both groups confirmed on Wednesday.

    "We were kicked out last year and nothing has changed and we wont be at CPAC," GOProud's Jimmy LaSalvia said in an interview. "The last communication I've had from them is that we were kicked out. Nothing has changed."


    Let's take another issue dear to conservatives. Dissent and debate encouraged!

    The Florida-based gun enthusiast magazine Guns & Ammo fired longtime editor Dick Metcalf on Wednesday and apologized to readers after Metcalf’s column in the magazine’s December issue sparked an online uproar from readers, gun bloggers, and other corners of the conservative movement.
    The hilarious thing about that incident was the publisher's apology. Groveling is a good description. This was from one short column:

    As editor of “Guns & Ammo,” I owe each and every reader a personal apology.
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    In publishing Metcalf’s column, I was untrue to that tradition, and for that I apologize.
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    I once again offer my personal apology.
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    I made a mistake by publishing the column. I thought it would generate a healthy exchange of ideas on gun rights. I miscalculated, pure and simple. I was wrong, and I ask your forgiveness.
    That was his response for publishing one short column that simply supported MINOR and long standing 'gun control.' Four apologies. I think that reflects a willingness to have a healthy debate, don't you think?

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Good morning Jasper,

    What is the relevance of the Guns and Ammo story to the Mozilla story? Someone else also posted about it. I'm failing to see the correlation.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    If they're willing to face the public backlash for it, more power to them, if they can do it legally and aren't outright firing people (which Mozilla didn't do). I think the chance of that happening is about zero.

    Note that I support their right to; not that I support the action. I haven't supported Mozilla's actions either.
    Thank you for clarifying, Kobie. I do see your posts saying that you don't support what Mozilla did. And I knew they didn't fire him. They forced him out but didn't fire him. I hope he gets a huge severance package.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Oh, bull****. At the time he made the donation, California had disclosure laws that kicked in at a certain threshold, which in this case was the exact amount of the donation -- $1,000. If he had donated $999, nobody would know about it. Ignorance of the law is no excuse. When you are part of a company like Mozilla and openly go against that company's ideals, there's going to be blowback. As I said earlier, it's probably a little much. But let's can the whole "ZOMG THEY WANT TO SILENCE CONSERVATIVES" and recognize it for what it is. The free market spoke. Figured you conservatives would love that.
    I love that the free market spoke. And I will embrace it when the free market works the other way and executives get pressure when it's revealed that a person gave money to a group that opposed Proposition 8.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    no doubt - although those laws hadn't been enforced for some time before that. And I don't think you will find many folks today on either side of the aisle calling for their reinstatement. Having previously fallen off the horse on one side, however, does not justify falling off the horse on the other.
    Enforcing it selectively isn't really the point. That the law existed, and was defended to the SC, is a powerful reflection of the attitudes of those in power in Texas of LGBT. In short, disdain, dislike, contempt? Pick an expression of extreme disapproval....

    And Cuccinelli as recently as 2012 ran on reinstating sodomy laws. Took the case to the SC. The excuse was he wanted to protect children, but he had opposed/blocked efforts to rewrite the law to do that, while allowing sex Ken didn't approve of. It was a bullhorn to anti-gay bigots, and everyone knew it. This was in 2012, and a politician running for state office in a large and prosperous state like VA thought it was a winning issue for GOP voters.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Wow. 7 in 10 black voters supported Proposition 8 in the 2008 election.

    The same voters who turned out strongest for Barack Obama also drove a stake through the heart of same-sex marriage

    Those bigots.

    Most of California's Black Voters Backed Gay Marriage Ban

    I'm sure the Cupid site called for a mass boycott of black owned businesses in California, but it musn't have made the news.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Thank you for clarifying, Kobie. I do see your posts saying that you don't support what Mozilla did. And I knew they didn't fire him. They forced him out but didn't fire him. I hope he gets a huge severance package.
    Agreed. At least this once, I'm hoping for a significant golden parachute.

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    Has anyone figured out yet what the people who oppose Eich were specifically hoping to accomplish by the boycott? I may have missed it if someone posted it.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Good morning Jasper,

    What is the relevance of the Guns and Ammo story to the Mozilla story? Someone else also posted about it. I'm failing to see the correlation.
    Seriously? High profile person in company (longtime writer and editor/CEO) takes position contrary to key customers and advertisers and suppliers (Gun rights/marriage rights), public outrage, company fires (writer/CEO).

    Metcalf (the writer) takes a position readers believe threatens their right to own guns. CEO takes position supporting stripping rights of LGBT.

    I think you must be willfully missing the parallels.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    Seriously? High profile person in company (longtime writer and editor/CEO) takes position contrary to key customers and advertisers and suppliers (Gun rights/marriage rights), public outrage, company fires (writer/CEO).

    Metcalf (the writer) takes a position readers believe threatens their right to own guns. CEO takes position supporting stripping rights of LGBT.

    I think you must be willfully missing the parallels.
    Well, the Editor of Guns and Ammo made a statement about the subject that is at the heart of his magazine's business model - guns and ammo.

    I may have missed when Mozilla's business model changed from internet solutions to gay marriage. When did that happen?

    The Mozilla advertisers are advertising on Mozilla because they are targeting gay marriage rights? Mozilla users are using Mozilla because of gay marriage rights?

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