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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    But you will support Hobby Lobby if they terminate someone because she donated to a cause that opposed Prop 8, I hope.
    You didn't address it before, but what do you think of Guns & Ammo firing their columnist for weakly supporting some 'gun control,' and reducing his editor to groveling rarely seen in print in an attempt to keep his job? Their readers and advertisers were up in arms because what he supported was viewed by them as a threat to their right to own a gun.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    That is just wrong.
    Good response.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    What the **** are you advocating for anyways? censorship?
    A private company has every right to censor.

    What am I advocating for? Read the damn thread if you want to know.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by BobbyO View Post
    Trying to shut people up is not freedom of speech.
    However, I have to agree that free speech doesn't mean without consequences.

    In this case, it seems to me, that the consequences are unjust and the results of over reaction and over zealousness. So, on this, yes, I agree with Kobie.
    (got Kobie right this time )

    I'd add that I hope that this doesn't become a recurring theme, the unjust results and over reaction and over zealousness, as moderation is usually better for everyone involved.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Good response.



    A private company has every right to censor.

    What am I advocating for? Read the damn thread if you want to know.
    IMO, beyond small businesses there are few corporations that are NOT puppets of the government or labor unions...

    I know this for a fact and it drives me nuts - especially knowing that nothing is for free..... Of course you can corporations that defy the government and the unions and they're treated like garbage, however they're more successful than the government and union puppet corporations, yet are consistently attacked by both entities, because they're not willing to play ball with the EPA and progressives in general. Then of course the government sicks the IRS on these corporations who tell the government to go **** off.

    This is the United States man - government should mind their own business..... Taxation is not good enough for these corporations - government and unions want way more influence than that...

    Hell, I'd love to open a business - a retail business - however it's just not worth it given the fact of government influence.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    IMO, beyond small businesses there are few corporations that are NOT puppets of the government or labor unions...

    I know this for a fact and it drives me nuts - especially knowing that nothing is for free..... Of course you can corporations that defy the government and the unions and they're treated like garbage, however they're more successful than the government and union puppet corporations, yet are consistently attacked by both entities, because they're not willing to play ball with the EPA and progressives in general. Then of course the government sicks the IRS on these corporations who tell the government to go **** off.

    This is the United States man - government should mind their own business..... Taxation is not good enough for these corporations - government and unions want way more influence than that...

    Hell, I'd love to open a business - a retail business - however it's just not worth it given the fact of government influence.
    And there folks is one of the reasons for the downward spiral and the anemic recovery that we've seen for the last years, all the while, the present administration and recent congresses have put regulation on steroids or human growth hormones., EPA, financial industry, ObaamCare, etc, etc. Welcome to the new normal, or at least until some of this excess regulation and restrictions are rolled back, if ever.

    But there's probably a thread for that around here someplace. Now, only to find it.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Now here is an important lie from the left. He's a "bigot" because he supports traditional marriage. No debate or disagreement allowed. No respect for your religion. In that case, anyone that opposes traditional marriage is also a bigot, as they refuse to accept the views of others that are not like their own.
    Sheesh, some consider him a bigot because he donated to an effort to strip gays of their rights. Can no conservatives see this as fundamentally different than merely having divergent VIEWS?

    Let's try another example.

    Person 1: I'm a devout Muslim
    Person 2: I'm a devout Christian

    We'd all agree, I think, that 1 and 2 should peacefully coexist in any workplace, and not be offended that their CEO takes a different view than them personally.

    Person 1: I'm a devout Christian
    Person 2: I'm a devout Muslim, and I donated to an effort to pass a Constitutional amendment to make "Sharia" the permanent law of California.

    Can anyone see the difference, and get why in that situation Christian employees, suppliers, customers, etc. might vehemently object to the Muslim CEO? It's no longer merely different opinions, which should be tolerated, but in this case Person 2 wants to enforce his views on EVERYONE, even those who disagree. Why is this so hard to get.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    Sheesh, some consider him a bigot because he donated to an effort to strip gays of their rights. Can no conservatives see this as fundamentally different than merely having divergent VIEWS?
    Rock Hudson, a homosexual man, was married. Dr. Sally Ride, a homosexual woman, was married. No one has stripped homosexuals of their rights. Don't be disingenuous.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    Rock Hudson, a homosexual man, was married. Dr. Sally Ride, a homosexual woman, was married. No one has stripped homosexuals of their rights. Don't be disingenuous.
    Wow, that is amazingly obtuse.

    How did those marriages work out?
    "Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it." George Santayana

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    Rock Hudson, a homosexual man, was married. Dr. Sally Ride, a homosexual woman, was married. No one has stripped homosexuals of their rights. Don't be disingenuous.
    That's pretty hilarious. I hope you're not being serious.

    But if you are somehow claiming that the 'right' to marry is simply the 'right' to marry SOMEONE, and not the person you love, and want to spend a lifetime with, well, that's....special. Thanks for the insight!

    Really, you didn't mean that, did you?

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    Really, you didn't mean that, did you?
    Seriously, you don't mean to argue that a man can marry a man, do you? That's not marriage. Get it?

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