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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Retroactive consequences. Nice. As if there are people with a past of pure driven snow. Dig hard enough and there'll be dirt that you can punishment with? Especially if now it's politically incorrect? And here I was thinking that to forgive is divine. Guess no luck for that with any liberals / progressives steering the boat.
    People get fired all the time for such things. Ironically, it is corporate right to fire people at will. I would love Love LOVE to see a conservative want to change such a right of good ole corporate america

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    It's just a sad state of affairs when people are so frightened to actually stand for something and speak their mind. The left (and much of the right) today is a bunch of mind numbed robots. Afraid to take any position, afraid to actually care about anything until they check which way the political winds are blowing.
    Kinda forced into this with all this holly observance of political correctness and faux injury if not strictly observed. What ever happened to the common sense of 'sticks and stones'?

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    They need to check and see what would be the acceptable stance for them to take, the one that would gain approval, not the true stance that they actually might care about. I guarantee that most of the politicians today don't give a rat's ass about gay marriage and would switch their stance tomorrow if they felt it would give them a better chance at reelection. Hell, Obama did it.
    When political correctness meets politics and politicians, i.e. nothing good as a result.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I still think they don't get the irony of their own words. "You're intolerant and a bigot because you don't see it my way", that's what I keep reading. That's I guess a more progressive way of saying "When I want your opinion I'll give it to you"
    I'd have to agree. They have a legitimate gripe and the status quo wasn't right, so now they feel empowered to mete out punishment whether fairly, bigoted or not.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Ask the people who wrote the employment laws.

    By your rationale, the act of responding negatively to someone saying or doing something they find objectionable is worse than the actual act itself.
    There are hardly any "employment laws." The unions defined the alleged laws (which aren't laws beyond federal minim wage)...

    Labor unions control 98% of the regulation.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    People get fired all the time for such things. Ironically, it is corporate right to fire people at will. I would love Love LOVE to see a conservative want to change such a right of good ole corporate america
    An at will state is a 2 sided thing. The company can fire anyone at anytime for any reason, the same way that an employee can quit at anytime for any reason. Also, the employee is not responsible for any sort of training or other expenses the company spends on them. No employment contract with a buy out clause and such.

    It's not like it's all one sided or anything.

    The counter example is like it is in some places in the EU. The worker finds a better job but has to give 3 months notice, or something stupid, and by the time he can leave, the other job is gone to someone else. Also, the company can't fire the deadwood in any reasonable time, nor make needed adjustments in staffing in response to business condition changes, so they don't hire in the first place.

    All in all, I think that the 'at will' situation is better for both parties. So, no, it's not like you are making it out to be.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    In the end, more than anything else, Brandon Eich was a victim of market forces. Mozilla, more than most companies since it's a nonprofit that relies largely on public contributions and its collaboration with Google for revenue, is in a unique position where the views of its executives could potentially be more impactful to the bottom line than most other entities.

    Oh, and as far as how this became public, Eich's $1,000 donation met the threshhold for public disclosure in California. The IRS didn't have anything to do with it.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Oh, and as far as how this became public, Eich's $1,000 donation met the threshhold for public disclosure in California. The IRS didn't have anything to do with it.
    And that disclosure law is likely not going to survive very long. Justice Clarence Thomas predicted this state of affairs in his opinion in Citizens United.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    An at will state is a 2 sided thing. The company can fire anyone at anytime for any reason, the same way that an employee can quit at anytime for any reason. Also, the employee is not responsible for any sort of training or other expenses the company spends on them. No employment contract with a buy out clause and such.

    It's not like it's all one sided or anything.

    The counter example is like it is in some places in the EU. The worker finds a better job but has to give 3 months notice, or something stupid, and by the time he can leave, the other job is gone to someone else. Also, the company can't fire the deadwood in any reasonable time, nor make needed adjustments in staffing in response to business condition changes, so they don't hire in the first place.

    All in all, I think that the 'at will' situation is better for both parties. So, no, it's not like you are making it out to be.
    Then people need to put on those big boy/girl panties if they are okay with at will employment. You get what you want. If a person becomes a liability to a company.......time to stop playing the victim card.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    In the end, more than anything else, Brandon Eich was a victim of market forces. Mozilla, more than most companies since it's a nonprofit that relies largely on public contributions and its collaboration with Google for revenue, is in a unique position where the views of its executives could potentially be more impactful to the bottom line than most other entities.

    Oh, and as far as how this became public, Eich's $1,000 donation met the threshhold for public disclosure in California. The IRS didn't have anything to do with it.

    That is just wrong.

    What the **** are you advocating for anyways? censorship?

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Yes they are.



    Freedom of speech is not freedom from consequence.
    Trying to shut people up is not freedom of speech.

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