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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Here's a news flash, I don't care about his religion one way or another. If he wants to outlaw gay marriage so be it. Please just don't cry when people speak out against you taking their right away. Furthermore, if they stop buying your product don't cry victim.
    It's just a sad state of affairs when people are so frightened to actually stand for something and speak their mind. The left (and much of the right) today is a bunch of mind numbed robots. Afraid to take any position, afraid to actually care about anything until they check which way the political winds are blowing.

    They need to check and see what would be the acceptable stance for them to take, the one that would gain approval, not the true stance that they actually might care about. I guarantee that most of the politicians today don't give a rat's ass about gay marriage and would switch their stance tomorrow if they felt it would give them a better chance at reelection. Hell, Obama did it.
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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    I think being against gay marriage is bigoted because it is supporting exclusionary policy.
    And I think people should be allowed to donate to political causes without having to answer for it. That's all he was guilty of.

    What was accomplished here anyway? I still don't get it. What did the Mozilla employees want anyway?

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Eich wasn't fired.
    Stop telling them the truth. It hurts their argument

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    It's just a sad state of affairs when people are so frightened to actually stand for something and speak their mind. The left (and much of the right) today is a bunch of mind numbed robots. Afraid to take any position, afraid to actually care about anything until they check which way the political winds are blowing.

    They need to check and see what would be the acceptable stance for them to take, the one that would gain approval, not the true stance that they actually might care about. I guarantee that most of the politicians today don't give a rat's ass about gay marriage and would switch their stance tomorrow if they felt it would give them a better chance at reelection. Hell, Obama did it.
    Obama "evolved".

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    By donating, he put his beliefs in the public square.
    I'd disagree. From what I understand the donations were made in private. Someone inside of Mozilla, if that's where the information came from, has an axe to grind against this guy, and struck right at his greatest weakness, and probably instigated similarly minded Mozilla people into action.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    "All of the Liberals" are attacking Hobby Lobby? That's funny, I'm a liberal and I haven't said a word about Hobby Lobby until this thread (and I didn't bring it up). Do we seriously not see the difference between two unrelated cases?

    The Mozilla case is about a company divesting itself from what it sees as a potential liability due to the (overzealous) backlash his employment caused.
    On this I agree with you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    The Hobby Lobby case is about a company attempting to get out of covering medical services in its insurance policies.


    I said earlier that I think this is overreach by the Anti-Eich Brigade.
    Yup.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    I'll speak for myself. I don't want to boycott, I want to see people like you fired for expressing your opinion on this issue. I too want to see some scalps, some personal wreckage in the lives of liberals.
    1. I defy you to find me any time in this thread I've celebrated Eich's "scalp" or actually supported Mozilla's decision.

    2. Eich wasn't fired.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I can't wait. But right now they're too wrapped up in the world where everyone who doesn't agree with them is a bigot.
    Tell the truth and that will shut them up really fast.... When you do that they go into "bonkers mode" and will accuse you of racism and will insist you're funded by the Koch brothers...

    When you're right they will throw **** at the wall and will run with anything that sticks or jibes in their mind.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    I boycott Progressive insurance too, because it's lousy insurance. And yes, those commercials are terrible.



    1. I never said I supported the idea of a Christian company doing that, just like I don't support Mozilla taking the actions they did -- it was overly knee-jerk and probably a dumb idea. I support the right to do so, however, as long as it doesn't violate employment law.

    2. If "Christian companies" want to come off as petty and vindictive as Mozilla's employees have, hey, knock yourselves out.
    Why hide behind employment law? What makes expressing a political or theological or legal idea something worthy of targeting but not worthy of protection under employment law? Why not have an even playing field for everyone?

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    By donating, he put his beliefs in the public square.
    No. The donation to NOM was secret. Only the IRS knew.

    So how was it discovered?

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    You're moving the goalposts. Eich wasn't fired, very likely because outright firing him would violate some sort of employment law.
    I didn't say Eich was fired, Kobie.

    Terminating him wouldn't be illegal. You can terminate people. Happens every day.

    But okay, in the Hobby Lobby example - how about if they pressure an employee to resign because of political contributions from 6 years ago to Prop 8 opposition causes. You support it, no question, right?

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