Page 69 of 179 FirstFirst ... 1959676869707179119169 ... LastLast
Results 681 to 690 of 1784

Thread: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

  1. #681
    Sage


    eohrnberger's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2013
    Last Seen
    Today @ 11:11 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    24,834
    Blog Entries
    11

    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    I have zero desire to speak out against other people's rights. None of my business, but you bet your bottom dollar if I started speaking out against any group of people, I'd lose my job.
    Did not Eich have the right to privacy? Did he not have the right to support a reasonably prevalent political position at the time? So now, 6 years later, after the situation has changed, his rights are now bridged in some way? Shouldn't you be speaking out in favor of his rights?

    Or is it that he is one of the 'group of people' that it's OK to abridge their rights?

    Its kinda gotta count the same for everyone in order to mean anything to anyone. Yes, there is a cultural shift underway, and everyone is kinda groping around coming to grips with it, but it's already here pretty much. What's the sense in punishing someone for politically incorrect positions of years and situations past at this date after the battle has already been won? I just don't see it?

  2. #682
    Sage
    rabbitcaebannog's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2013
    Location
    Massachusetts
    Last Seen
    12-09-17 @ 08:35 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    10,918

    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    That would be too legitimate. It has to be because of your personal opinions. Your boss found out you voted for a Democrat or you support homosexual marriage and boom, that's why you're fired. Nothing to do with your speech or actions in regard to your employer.
    Um, you specifically said loudmouth. I took that as meaning the latter. Now if I sold a product and my consumers were not happy with my political ways, they have a right to stop buying my products.

  3. #683
    The Dude
    Kobie's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Location
    Western NY
    Last Seen
    Today @ 04:31 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    42,878

    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    That would be too legitimate. It has to be because of your personal opinions. Your boss found out you voted for a Democrat or you support homosexual marriage and boom, that's why you're fired. Nothing to do with your speech or actions in regard to your employer.
    Eich wasn't fired.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

  4. #684
    The Dude
    Kobie's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Location
    Western NY
    Last Seen
    Today @ 04:31 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    42,878

    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Um, you specifically said loudmouth. I took that as meaning the latter. Now if I sold a product and my consumers were not happy with my political ways, they have a right to stop buying my products.
    Precisely. And enough people (apparently) told Mozilla they'd stop using Firefox that Mozilla divested itself of a potential liability, for better or worse.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

  5. #685
    Sage
    rabbitcaebannog's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2013
    Location
    Massachusetts
    Last Seen
    12-09-17 @ 08:35 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    10,918

    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Did not Eich have the right to privacy? Did he not have the right to support a reasonably prevalent political position at the time? So now, 6 years later, after the situation has changed, his rights are now bridged in some way? Shouldn't you be speaking out in favor of his rights?

    Or is it that he is one of the 'group of people' that it's OK to abridge their rights?

    Its kinda gotta count the same for everyone in order to mean anything to anyone. Yes, there is a cultural shift underway, and everyone is kinda groping around coming to grips with it, but it's already here pretty much. What's the sense in punishing someone for politically incorrect positions of years and situations past at this date after the battle has already been won? I just don't see it?
    I never said he doesn't have a right to try and outlaw gay marriage. I simply said there are consequences.

  6. #686
    Kinky
    tres borrachos's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    New England
    Last Seen
    Today @ 05:16 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    39,094

    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    I boycott Progressive insurance too, because it's lousy insurance. And yes, those commercials are terrible.



    1. I never said I supported the idea of a Christian company doing that, just like I don't support Mozilla taking the actions they did -- it was overly knee-jerk and probably a dumb idea. I support the right to do so, however, as long as it doesn't violate employment law.

    2. If "Christian companies" want to come off as petty and vindictive as Mozilla's employees have, hey, knock yourselves out.
    Woah, slow down there. I'm not a Christian and I don't have a company.

    I want the Geico pig to eat the Progressive lady.

    But you will support Hobby Lobby if they terminate someone because she donated to a cause that opposed Prop 8, I hope.

  7. #687
    Banned
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Location
    Chicago
    Last Seen
    10-30-14 @ 12:38 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    7,908

    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I still think they don't get the irony of their own words. "You're intolerant and a bigot because you don't see it my way", that's what I keep reading. That's I guess a more progressive way of saying "When I want your opinion I'll give it to you"
    That is the progressive creed...

    It's highly ironic - their position defeats what they allegedly stand for.

    Also, many progressives aren't progressive - they're just anti-opposition party. However the smart ones that do have a plan are basically totalitarian 1984ish psychopaths whom are hungry for power and don't give a **** about US citizens, just as long as their redistribution ideas keep them in an elite and lucrative position.

  8. #688
    Sage
    rabbitcaebannog's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2013
    Location
    Massachusetts
    Last Seen
    12-09-17 @ 08:35 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    10,918

    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Precisely. And enough people (apparently) told Mozilla they'd stop using Firefox that Mozilla divested itself of a potential liability, for better or worse.
    Exactly, and for that we are suppose to be upset.

  9. #689
    The Dude
    Kobie's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Location
    Western NY
    Last Seen
    Today @ 04:31 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    42,878

    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Woah, slow down there. I'm not a Christian and I don't have a company.

    I want the Geico pig to eat the Progressive lady.

    But you will support Hobby Lobby if they terminate someone because she donated to a cause that opposed Prop 8, I hope.
    You're moving the goalposts. Eich wasn't fired, very likely because outright firing him would violate some sort of employment law.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

  10. #690
    Student
    Join Date
    Mar 2014
    Last Seen
    05-15-16 @ 11:22 PM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    279

    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Eich exercised his right to free speech by donating money to a political cause. Do not the employees of Mozilla and their supporters have the same right to free speech, utilized by putting pressure on the company?
    The employees of Mozilla who placed pressure o the company are not engaging in free speech. They are trying to shut speech down.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •