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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    So you agree that everyone has a right to believe marriage should be between a man and a woman without being questioned. It isn't illegal, so it's a private matter.
    Not a single person in this thread is suggesting that Eich did anything illegal by donating to pro-Proposition 8 groups. That said, he chose to exercise his right to free speech by donating that money, and others have exercised theirs by negatively responding to Mozilla. Mozilla weighed the benefits vs. liabilities of keeping him on. Freedom of speech does not equal freedom from consequence.

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    Unless Mozilla was doing something that was oppressing LGBT employees, or hurting them, then the person involved did nothing wrong. And he was unfairly attacked by the Cupid site.
    The person involved engaged in activities that Mozilla saw as a potential liability to the company. And it wasn't OKCupid that exposed this or caused the initial firestorm -- it was Mozilla's own employees.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Up until political correctly turns on you, of course, then it wouldn't be fair, right? Never mind everyone else, just as long as you're OK. Am I right?

    Point being is no one is always 100% politically correct, especially when it's an evolving thing. Most anyone could be caught on it's wrong side at some point. Fair enough to dole out the same vindictive and retroactive punishment then?
    Right, it's called vindictive to not shop at a place whose CEO promotes and bankrolls something your against Last time I checked, people in the US have that right. If the company or the CEO doesn't like it, tough cookies.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    And now, apparently, traditional marriage, and support of traditional marriage being on the targeted list now.
    So "traditional marriage" (i.e. marriage between a man and a woman) is on the "target list" now?
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    So you agree that everyone has a right to believe marriage should be between a man and a woman without being questioned. It isn't illegal, so it's a private matter.

    And remember, corporations aren't people. They can't be identified as people. Unless Mozilla was doing something that was oppressing LGBT employees, or hurting them, then the person involved did nothing wrong. And he was unfairly attacked by the Cupid site.
    The more interesting angle to me was what OK Cupid did. If Hobby Lobby can't have a religion, how on Earth could OK Cupid have a philosophical position on homosexual marriage. I wonder if some shareholders of OK Cupids parent company are going to sue the executives for "fill in the blank" as a result of their actions.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Right, it's called vindictive to not shop at a place whose CEO promotes and bankrolls something your against.
    That's fair. I'm all for freedom. I'd love to see you getting fired for being a loudmouth woman.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Eich exercised his right to free speech by donating money to a political cause. Do not the employees of Mozilla and their supporters have the same right to free speech, utilized by putting pressure on the company?
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Not a single person in this thread is suggesting that Eich did anything illegal by donating to pro-Proposition 8 groups. That said, he chose to exercise his right to free speech by donating that money, and others have exercised theirs by negatively responding to Mozilla. Mozilla weighed the benefits vs. liabilities of keeping him on. Freedom of speech does not equal freedom from consequence.



    Oh, I wish that were so.

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    The person involved engaged in activities that Mozilla saw as a potential liability to the company. And it wasn't OKCupid that exposed this or caused the initial firestorm -- it was Mozilla's own employees.
    So if he did nothing illegal, what business is it of anyone?

    And if corporations are people made up of the personal views of the people, then why are all of the Liberals attacking Hobby Lobby?

    The Mozilla employees must be either underworked or radical. There is no evidence whatsoever that Eich was anything but a good manager, and never did anything during his tenure at Mozilla that could be considered discrininatory towards gays. If they did this, then they are nothing but a lynch mob IMO, going after a man because of what he did in his personal life.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I can't believe some of what I'm reading.
    I know, right? And he attempts to spout data left and right from the most suspect sources.

    He's the type that has his beliefs and seeks out the 'data' that supports it, rather than the other way around...
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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Eich exercised his right to free speech by donating money to a political cause. Do not the employees of Mozilla and their supporters have the same right to free speech, utilized by putting pressure on the company?
    Absolutely. And since we agree that he did nothing illegal, and the employees should have the right to free speech, I think all of the supporters of traditional marriage should now have the same right. And I'm sure I'll see all of you come to the defense of the companies being boycotted when they decide to pressure employees who donated to causes that opposed Prop 8 to resign.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    The more interesting angle to me was what OK Cupid did. If Hobby Lobby can't have a religion, how on Earth could OK Cupid have a philosophical position on homosexual marriage. I wonder if some shareholders of OK Cupids parent company are going to sue the executives for "fill in the blank" as a result of their actions.
    Nobody said Hobby Lobby can't have a religion. What they can't do is use their religion to withhold medical services from their employees.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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