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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    And henceforth you shall bear the mark of McCarthyite. Good job, Brownie.
    Nice red herring

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    So now being in support of traditional marriage is bigotry?
    Um, he was giving money to outlaw gay marriage. Sure, it is his right as it is the right of people to boycott him due to his actions.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Nice red herring
    Of course you don't want to own up to your actions. I get it. However, just because I get your desire to distance yourself from McCarthy doesn't mean that I'm going to play along and assuage your guilt. "Were you ever a member of the Communist Party" and all of the after-effects which flowed are exactly what you've replicated today. Good job, Brownie, own your McCarthyism.

    You know what else you can own - a future movement to remove donor information from political databases. Thanks to zealots like you politics in the future is going to be less transparent because we all recognize that zealots troll through the databases and make life hell for people who are simply exercising their right to free political expression. No court is going to allow civil society to turn into a zone of Hatfield and McCoy feuds. Again, good job, Brownie.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Um, he was giving money to outlaw gay marriage. Sure, it is his right as it is the right of people to boycott him due to his actions.
    The majority of donations from Intel were in support of Proposition 8, so are you ripping the Intel chip from your motherboard this evening?

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Kobie, (got it right this time - sorry ) Violence is violence. One physical, one based on emotional threats, yeah OK I admit a bad parallel.
    I do agree that the gay-rights movement is kinda overreaching here.

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    But still, why punish a company for what one employee did 6 years ago, in private, supporting a prevalent position at the time, which only since then has become politically incorrect and politically toxic?
    Andrew Sullivan and his case of the vapors notwithstanding, I think the gay rights movement has a lot bigger fish to fry than this dude. And I don't think the uproar is really as widespread as people are making it out to be. If this had been a situation at nearly any other Silicon Valley company it wouldn't have been as big of a deal and Eich probably would still have a job.

    And Prop 8 was pretty toxic in Silicon Valley even then. It passed with 52% support in California; in Silicon Valley, it was just 38%. (I read that earlier today, I'll see if I can find where if I have time).

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    And why is it politically toxic to support traditional marriage? Even now. SSM in California is a pretty settled decision, right? What's the logical gain for doling out vindictive punishment for a counter position that's already years old?
    I think there's a difference between merely holding the position and helping to bankroll it, even for such a paltry sum.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    So now being in support of traditional marriage is bigotry?
    That's kind of a weak way of describing it. Being against gay marriage (which "being in support of traditional marriage" actually means) is bigotry. There's simply no reason not to allow it that's not steeped in bigotry based on religion.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Only the person who took the physical beating was being punished for being gay. The CEO is being punished for being a bigot. Big difference. People have a right to speak out against such bigotry.
    Supporting marriage between a man and a woman is now being labeled as "bigotry" now.

    I'm very much pro-gay marriage, but when I read words like this, I start to question if that only promotes these kinds of irresponsible posts.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    Of course you don't want to own up to your actions. I get it. However, just because I get your desire to distance yourself from McCarthy doesn't mean that I'm going to play along and assuage your guilt. "Were you ever a member of the Communist Party" and all of the after-effects which flowed are exactly what you've replicated today. Good job, Brownie, own your McCarthyism.

    You know what else you can own - a future movement to remove donor information from political databases. Thanks to zealots like you politics in the future is going to be less transparent because we all recognize that zealots troll through the databases and make life hell for people who are simply exercising their right to free political expression. No court is going to allow civil society to turn into a zone of Hatfield and McCoy feuds. Again, good job, Brownie.
    What a hoot He is allowed to exercise his right but no one else is allowed to speak out against his right to contribute to outlawing gay marriage. Since when did his rights trump everyone else Yes, he has a right to want to outlaw marriage for gay people as people have a right to boycott his business because they dislike his politics. The beauty of living in a free nation. McCarthyism has to do with false claim. Are you saying he didn't make that donation?

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    That's kind of a weak way of describing it. Being against gay marriage (which "being in support of traditional marriage" actually means) is bigotry. There's simply no reason not to allow it that's not steeped in bigotry based on religion.
    I'm a woman who is married to a man. That means I support traditional marriage. I live it. Am I a bigot?

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Um, he was giving money to outlaw gay marriage. Sure, it is his right as it is the right of people to boycott him due to his actions.
    At the time that he was supporting that position, it was a prevalent position of many others, many in high political office and other public figures. Much has changed on that front in the last 6 years, and it seems a bit late to punish him now for an action he took way back then in the situation as it was back then. Rather petty and vindictive. Rather retroactive.

    It's rather like the actions and behavior of the LGBT community and their supports are now engaged in is the same behavior that they had legitimate beef with. Odd how now that the tables are turned, it all good and acceptable and perfectly in line with political correctness. Woe be the day when the shifting sands of political correctness catch up with someone's years old position. Dole out the vindictive and retroactive punishment! Political correctness demands it!

    You are not seeing a problem with this?

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