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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

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    "Asshole" is a job requirement, when you're running a company.
    That is not only false, but a destructive delusion.
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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    That is not only false, but a destructive delusion.
    Yeah, I'm overstating the matter.

    I mainly meant that as a CEO, I suspect you must disregard emotional decisions that might negatively effect the company, in order to logically further the interests of it.

    I consider his political donations emotional decisions, as indeed, the vast majority of political positions are. In this instance, he was unlucky enough to make a decision that negatively impacted the company, and I can find nothing unreasonable about his leaving.

    I think that the customers who reacted negatively to the information are where the blame for his leaving should be placed - if his donations were with personal funds (as I understand is the case) and not company funds, it shouldn't really be an issue.

    But when Mozilla consumers MADE it an issue, the company needed to act.
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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Yeah, I'm overstating the matter.

    I mainly meant that as a CEO, I suspect you must disregard emotional decisions that might negatively effect the company, in order to logically further the interests of it.

    I consider his political donations emotional decisions, as indeed, the vast majority of political positions are. In this instance, he was unlucky enough to make a decision that negatively impacted the company, and I can find nothing unreasonable about his leaving.

    I think that the customers who reacted negatively to the information are where the blame for his leaving should be placed - if his donations were with personal funds (as I understand is the case) and not company funds, it shouldn't really be an issue.

    But when Mozilla consumers MADE it an issue, the company needed to act.
    Unfortunately, a subset of those customers has adopted the tactics of their former oppressors.

    “Twelve voices were shouting in anger, and they were all alike. No question, now, what had happened to the faces of the pigs. The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.”
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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Yeah, I'm overstating the matter.

    I mainly meant that as a CEO, I suspect you must disregard emotional decisions that might negatively effect the company, in order to logically further the interests of it.

    I consider his political donations emotional decisions, as indeed, the vast majority of political positions are. In this instance, he was unlucky enough to make a decision that negatively impacted the company, and I can find nothing unreasonable about his leaving.

    I think that the customers who reacted negatively to the information are where the blame for his leaving should be placed - if his donations were with personal funds (as I understand is the case) and not company funds, it shouldn't really be an issue.

    But when Mozilla consumers MADE it an issue, the company needed to act.
    Umm, he made an emotional decision 6 years ago that someone with an agenda made public to damage him, and the customers made it an issue the company couldn't ignore.

    The unfairness was to make public his private information, and it was also unfair of the customers for making it such an issue which they shouldn't have, especially on a settled matter such as this.

    It wasn't his decision that made the company look bad, it was the customers making it such an issue that forced the company to act.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Unfortunately, a subset of those customers has adopted the tactics of their former oppressors.

    “Twelve voices were shouting in anger, and they were all alike. No question, now, what had happened to the faces of the pigs. The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.”
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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

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    Hate devours the hater.
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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Rolling your eyes there Kobi, but really, those that called for Eich's firing and organized the Mozilla boycott are really no better than those that went around and beat up gays outside a gay bar.

    Next thing you'll know, you may get the same treatment for being in a traditional marriage. Not outside of the realm of possibility.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Rolling your eyes there Kobi, but really, those that called for Eich's firing and organized the Mozilla boycott are really no better than those that went around and beat up gays outside a gay bar.

    Next thing you'll know, you may get the same treatment for being in a traditional marriage. Not outside of the realm of possibility.
    Calling for a boycott is "no better" than physical violence?

    And it's Kobie.
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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Calling for a boycott is "no better" than physical violence?
    Make your choice: Take a physical beating or lose your livelihood for the next 5 years.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    He lied during the hiring process, and later revealed personal affairs that reflect poorly on the company's image. He committed fraud and harmed the company.
    He lied to who during what process? What on Earth are you talking about?

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