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    re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Oh so now Christians are the KKK? Why ****ing stop there? Let's go with the Nazi's!

    It's quite clear, if you aren't pro-LGBT, Welfare, Obama you're a racist, Homophobe Nazi killer.
    Not even close to what Lursa actually said, but hey, it's your strawman.
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    re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Not even close to what Lursa actually said, but hey, it's your strawman.
    Yes, it was. Nice try Kobie.

    I'll remember that in the future.
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    re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Yes, it was. Nice try Kobie.

    I'll remember that in the future.
    No, it's not. By posing a hypothetical situation, that's automatically equating Christians and the KKK? That's sheer nonsense.
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    re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    How open and tolerant can an organization possibly be considered, when it crucifies someone for donating a relatively small amount of money to a cause that some people of the organization doesn't approve of? Seems rather petty and vindictive to me somehow.
    I'm not sure anyone understands how some people view the issue of SSM. There are two theoretical positions.

    1) I'm against SSM, but am tolerant of those who are in favor, especially my many gay employees and business partners who want to get married.
    2) I am against SSM, and will donate to a cause that attempts to enshrine, in the Constitution, SSM as a perpetual second class relationship in the State of California.

    I don't see why it's so hard to see that distinction. That second was an attempt to strip, or limit, the rights of same sex couples. If it had passed, those same gay employees who he was so tolerant of (and I assume he was) would be forever prohibited from enjoying the same privileged status as a married couple that he enjoys with his spouse. It's a lot bigger deal than just an opinion on SSM.

    Just as an example, if we go back a few years, imagine a CEO that was very supportive of all races in the workforce, blacks included. But, nothing personal, he just believed marriage was between members of the same race, AND supported anti-miscegenation laws. That's more than an opinion - those laws stripped or limited the rights of his black employees. Would anyone be surprised that black employees/customers/business partners and their supporters would protest that CEO? I know a lot of people don't see it, but that's the way many see this issue. It's a matter of rights that he opposed extending to his LGBT people.

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    re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    I'm not sure anyone understands how some people view the issue of SSM. There are two theoretical positions.

    1) I'm against SSM, but am tolerant of those who are in favor, especially my many gay employees and business partners who want to get married.
    2) I am against SSM, and will donate to a cause that attempts to enshrine, in the Constitution, SSM as a perpetual second class relationship in the State of California.

    I don't see why it's so hard to see that distinction. That second was an attempt to strip, or limit, the rights of same sex couples. If it had passed, those same gay employees who he was so tolerant of (and I assume he was) would be forever prohibited from enjoying the same privileged status as a married couple that he enjoys with his spouse. It's a lot bigger deal than just an opinion on SSM.

    Just as an example, if we go back a few years, imagine a CEO that was very supportive of all races in the workforce, blacks included. But, nothing personal, he just believed marriage was between members of the same race, AND supported anti-miscegenation laws. That's more than an opinion - those laws stripped or limited the rights of his black employees. Would anyone be surprised that black employees/customers/business partners and their supporters would protest that CEO? I know a lot of people don't see it, but that's the way many see this issue. It's a matter of rights that he opposed extending to his LGBT people.
    Forcing a theoretical position on someone to make your argument? Hmm. How legitimate is that really? There are an infinite number of other positions other than the 2 you mentioned, so the world isn't black and white as you are trying to draw it. The man isn't here to define it for himself. All we can say is that we don't know his position on the matter.

    I still stand by my position, and I'm here to discuss it, in that the LBGT lobby, by behaving the way that they are, are in fact engaging in that which they criticize of others.

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    re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I personally feel that gay marriage should be legal. I support that right. I also support the rights of people who don't agree with me.

    That said, I'm sure everyone who was calling for Eich's head will be completely understanding when some company decides it isn't in their best interest to have a CEO who donated to any group that opposed Proposition 8 in 2008 as their CEO, or any other employee for that matter.
    Of course. Businesses are going to make decisions based on their interests. But I wouldn't hold my breath - marriage equality is clearly winning out and only a foolish businessperson doesn't see that.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Thanks so much! I'm sure Mozilla is in the midst of installing more servers to handle the certain blast of downloads they are sure to experience now that they put their foot on this non conforming unit that though he could think for himself!
    So you think they made this decision for reasons other than their bottom line?
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Forcing a theoretical position on someone to make your argument? Hmm. How legitimate is that really? There are an infinite number of other positions other than the 2 you mentioned, so the world isn't black and white as you are trying to draw it. The man isn't here to define it for himself. All we can say is that we don't know his position on the matter.

    I still stand by my position, and I'm here to discuss it, in that the LBGT lobby, by behaving the way that they are, are in fact engaging in that which they criticize of others.
    Engaging in freedom of expression? Yep, they're doing that.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Oh so now Christians are the KKK?
    .... seriously, the post you quoted did not say that at all. You're not that stupid, don't pretend to be.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Engaging in freedom of expression? Yep, they're doing that.
    Forcing someone to resign is a bit more than engaging in freedom of expression, isn't it? Granted, the man made his own decision, but to what extent was he forced into a position where he had to make that decision?

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