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    re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    And thus his departure was hilariously avoidable.


    I assume you mean you couldn't disagree more. Would you say that he took an apologetic or a head-on approach to his detractors?
    No, I mean I couldn't agree more with what Eich wrote. I think he took a very middle of the road approach, and attempted to remind people that diversity of thought is a good thing.

    Obviously Mozilla does not think it is, and has established their ground rules.

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    re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

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    re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by LowDown View Post
    That's good to hear, because records of donations to political candidates and the like are made public, available through sites like opensecret.org. So it's a simple matter to root out people who donate no matter how quiet they might be at work about their politics. I'll bet a lot of managers don't even know about that. Perhaps they could be informed about which of their employees are suspect? After all, this is exactly what was done to Eich.

    But saying that it happens isn't the same thing as saying you approve of people getting fired for their politics. Do you approve of that?
    People disagreeing with your political views such that you may suddenly find yourself in an ugly spot is the human condition, so I think if you've donated to a cause then you have to categorize yourself as an "activist" and be prepared to deal with whatever fallout that entails. If political activism had no consequences it would be no big deal, just as no mythos would surround our soldiers if none of them ever faced hostile fire.

    Keep in mind Eich made a choice we all face given enough time: recant and keep your job, or stand by your principles and risk losing it. Eich vigorously chose the latter, and now he's out of a job. That being said, I'd say his offense was so minor he could have chosen a third way that wouldn't have compromised his job or his beliefs, but let's face it: that's just not the kind of guy Eich is.

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    re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Say, "Cardinal, I believe no such thing. Of course I believe people are allowed to vote out a Senator for contributing to the Nazi Party!"

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    re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

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    re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    That being said, I'd say his offense was so minor he could have chosen a third way that wouldn't have compromised his job or his beliefs, but let's face it: that's just not the kind of guy Eich is.
    I think you don't understand the terms of the battle. A third way cannot be undertaken unilaterally, it involves the opposing party also finding the third way acceptable.

    Homosexuals are not on a mission to get people to tolerate their presence, they mean to make people declare a love for homosexuality. This tactic was seen in communist reeducation camps, where prisoners where forced to denounce their allies, where priests were forced to denounce God, etc. This is meant to humiliate the prisoner, break his spirit.

    No one has pointed to anything that Eich did on the job, Mozilla already has a policy of granting benefits to homosexual couples. The issue was that Eich didn't love homosexuals, didn't sing their praises. It was his personal beliefs that were the problem.

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    re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    I think you don't understand the terms of the battle. A third way cannot be undertaken unilaterally, it involves the opposing party also finding the third way acceptable.
    I disagree. It's almost like you're saying negotiation isn't a thing.

    I saw "something something re-education camps" in the rest of your post and just ignored it.

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    re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by CycloneWanderer View Post
    What would happen if the CEO of some company (Whole Foods, or McDonalds, for example) decided to force out or fire every employee who donated money to support a proposition raising the minimum wage? They are legitimately protecting their business and the interests of their customers, right? Freedom of Association/Speech, correct?

    And this is exactly what a few of us are saying here. I have a dream.. I have a dream that one day conservatives, and right-libertarians unite under a single banner and start to fight back with the same tactics the left uses on us. I have a dream that one day we wake up and realize that we far outnumber the vocal and well funded left, and we begin using that advantage to our own best interests. I have a dream that corporations, and businesses realize that their customer base is essentially made up of people that work for a living, pay taxes and contribute to society, and that of those we are the super majority. I have a dream that businesses aren't as stupid as Mozilla and as short sighted as them setting this [recedent, and I have a dream that one day the militant gay left will realize that these tactics, and their rhetoric will eventually catch up them, and they won't like the outcome.

    It's just a dream, but I have it all the time.


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    re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    And this is exactly what a few of us are saying here. I have a dream.. I have a dream that one day conservatives, and right-libertarians unite under a single banner and start to fight back with the same tactics the left uses on us. I have a dream that one day we wake up and realize that we far outnumber the vocal and well funded left, and we begin using that advantage to our own best interests. I have a dream that corporations, and businesses realize that their customer base is essentially made up of people that work for a living, pay taxes and contribute to society, and that of those we are the super majority. I have a dream that businesses aren't as stupid as Mozilla and as short sighted as them setting this [recedent, and I have a dream that one day the militant gay left will realize that these tactics, and their rhetoric will eventually catch up them, and they won't like the outcome.

    It's just a dream, but I have it all the time.


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    re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Oh, and let me throw this out there. I have Mozilla on one computer. The next time I use that computer, I will unistall Mozilla (FireFox). I don't like the way they are intolerant to people's beliefs, and I hope others that support people not being attacked in such a manner will do so also.
    My husband and I already did exactly that with our computers.

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