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    re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post

    How do you think this works? If your business does something I disagree with, I'm required to purchase your products anyway or else I'm violating your first amendment rights? Or do I have the right to take my business elsewhere?
    Well, we do know that bakers and photographers can be mandated to provide their services to same sex marriages. So yeah, maybe okcupid was violating law by refusing to do business with Mozilla because they dissaproved of its CEO view of same sex marriage.

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    re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    What you want is a society with no accountability. If you can point to a single example in history where this has existed I'll eat my shoes, otherwise what you want is pure fantasy.
    I never suggested such a thing. As I see it, what you are suggesting is a society of total accountability to a very limited source of it. Toe the line, or else. I think that is dangerous and should be absolutely rejected.

    As to shoe eating, there are so many examples from history, I'm afraid you'll never own another shoe again. I don't want to be held responsible for any injuries that may occur as a result.

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    re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by BobbyO View Post
    Well, we do know that bakers and photographers can be mandated to provide their services to same sex marriages. So yeah, maybe okcupid was violating law by refusing to do business with Mozilla because they dissaproved of its CEO view of same sex marriage.
    They didn't refuse anything. I have friends who have been using firefox with OK Cupid this whole time (its from them I first heard about this)

    they just got a message.

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    re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    I agree that the offense is slight. I think perhaps there's something else that we don't know about.
    This is becoming a typical response of "outrage mania".
    Einstein, "science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."

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    re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    And I would agree.

    One of the many misunderstandings regarding the freedom of speech is that it merely grants you the right to voice your opinion. What it does not do is grant you immunity from any consequences that result from that opinion.
    And with liberals comprising only 20% of the population and conservatives 40%, this is good news for many companies who come to understand this new politicized labor market - fire liberals for voting for Obama, fire liberals for opening their yaps and expressing their Totalitarian Liberal views.

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    re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    I never suggested such a thing. As I see it, what you are suggesting is a society of total accountability to a very limited source of it. Toe the line, or else. I think that is dangerous and should be absolutely rejected.
    Not at all. For example, I would say that everybody is accountable, just not to everybody. Eich was accountable to his company's image.

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    As to shoe eating, there are so many examples from history, I'm afraid you'll never own another shoe again. I don't want to be held responsible for any injuries that may occur as a result.
    Try me.

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    re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    We have freedom of speech but that should only mean there are no consequences from the govt.

    Individuals, customers, the public....all can act or react as they choose, within the law.

    There are definitely consequences to free speech.
    That's right - some of us have been saying this all along. This is what freedom looks like. Next on the firing line, homosexuals, women, minorities, white dudes, old people, it doesn't matter.

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    re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    And with liberals comprising only 20% of the population and conservatives 40%, this is good news for many companies who come to understand this new politicized labor market - fire liberals for voting for Obama, fire liberals for opening their yaps and expressing their Totalitarian Liberal views.
    What you're describing isn't actually "new." There's a very, very good reason why it's considered smart to leave your politics at home when you go to work.

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    re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    No part of this violates the first amendment. The government cannot punish him for that speech.

    How do you think this works? If your business does something I disagree with, I'm required to purchase your products anyway or else I'm violating your first amendment rights? Or do I have the right to take my business elsewhere?

    And if enough people take their business elsewhere, does your business have the right to fire you for costing them that business? Or is the business forced to keep employing you so as to not violate your first amendment rights?
    you can rant, rage and feign moral outrage all you want to.

    businesses should just leave it at that and let you.
    my kids like to pitch fits every now and then. i ignore them and they stop.

    if you want to rant, and rage that is fine, businesses should ignore you and go about their business as normal.
    again i never said anything you are arguing so i have to assume that you don't care to be honest in a discussion.

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    re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    In an interview recently he was asked if he would do it again, and dodged the question.
    Maybe it was for the good that he was let go because this is now two instances I've observed where he made the wrong decision. Here he is accepting the framing of the issue put forth by the interviewer, the presumption that he did something wrong. No, this is when you take the opportunity presented to you and you turn the attention onto the rigid thought control being injected into society by Totalitarian Liberalism and the Lavender Mafia. They're the bad guys here, they're the ones who need to rethink their zealotry. Don't be a meek coward - stand up for your beliefs and don't flinch from telling the truth that the bad guys are the ones who are out there braying for blood.

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