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    re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Yes, I understand. And the world is still searching for Nazi guards.

    I don't see those historical issues as being equivalent to the issue here.

    Where does the line get drawn? Why not look at political party donations as a qualifier? How about religious beliefs?

    The fact is, this matter, and the desire for revenge that is being exposed by it, is setting a precedent that is very dangerous.
    Baloney. Political figures are accountable to their constituency for their political beliefs and endorsements all the time.

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    re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Yes, I understand. And the world is still searching for Nazi guards.

    I don't see those historical issues as being equivalent to the issue here.

    Where does the line get drawn? Why not look at political party donations as a qualifier? How about religious beliefs?

    The fact is, this matter, and the desire for revenge that is being exposed by it, is setting a precedent that is very dangerous.
    It is not setting a dangerous precedent for individuals to express their disapproval of a business' actions. It's setting a dangerous precedent if you force people to just accept anything that any business does under the guise of protecting that business' freedom.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Yes, I understand. And the world is still searching for Nazi guards.

    I don't see those historical issues as being equivalent to the issue here.

    Where does the line get drawn? Why not look at political party donations as a qualifier? How about religious beliefs?

    The fact is, this matter, and the desire for revenge that is being exposed by it, is setting a precedent that is very dangerous.
    Well, I will leave the historical precedent being absolutely equivalent being alone for now (my point was human nature, but oh well).

    Lets say the other side reacts and in a howard beale moment, they are mad as hell and won't take it anymore, what do you expect the response to be?

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    re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Baloney. Political figures are accountable to their constituency for their political beliefs and endorsements all the time.
    Yes, they are. But what does a political figure have to do with this issue?

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    re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    Yes, they are. But what does a political figure have to do with this issue?
    Accountability.

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    re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    It is not setting a dangerous precedent for individuals to express their disapproval of a business' actions. It's setting a dangerous precedent if you force people to just accept anything that any business does under the guise of protecting that business' freedom.
    It will be unfortunate if society is allowed to regress to the point other societies have reached, when approved and correct thought determines life or death.

    Given the type of society the people who forced this action appear to be trying to create, they had better keep a close watch on their actions, lest they find themselves on the wrong side of the line, and judged in the same way they are supporting.

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    re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    No part of this violates the first amendment. The government cannot punish him for that speech.

    How do you think this works? If your business does something I disagree with, I'm required to purchase your products anyway or else I'm violating your first amendment rights? Or do I have the right to take my business elsewhere?

    And if enough people take their business elsewhere, does your business have the right to fire you for costing them that business? Or is the business forced to keep employing you so as to not violate your first amendment rights?
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    re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    Well, I will leave the historical precedent being absolutely equivalent being alone for now (my point was human nature, but oh well).

    Lets say the other side reacts and in a howard beale moment, they are mad as hell and won't take it anymore, what do you expect the response to be?
    The general response was figured out and written down more than two centuries ago. As for California, the specific response was agreed to on May 7, 1879, and has been edited on an ongoing basis since then.

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    re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    The general response was figured out and written down more than two centuries ago. As for California, the specific response was agreed to on May 7, 1879, and has been edited on an ongoing basis since then.
    So you think there will be a violent revolution?

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    re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    It will be unfortunate if society is allowed to regress to the point other societies have reached, when approved and correct thought determines life or death.

    Given the type of society the people who forced this action appear to be trying to create, they had better keep a close watch on their actions, lest they find themselves on the wrong side of the line, and judged in the same way they are supporting.
    What you want is a society with no accountability. If you can point to a single example in history where this has existed I'll eat my shoes, otherwise what you want is pure fantasy.

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