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    re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

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    Votes are private because we don't want voters to be forced to choose someone againist their beliefs.

    Political donations on the other hand should be public knowledge because there is a difference between a political donation and bribery.
    Political donations are the same as a vote: supporting a political belief.
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    re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

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    Political donations are the same as a vote: supporting a political belief.
    but not everyone has the same financial advantages. A corperation with lots of money should not have greater political influence than a average worker. one man, one vote levels the playing field while money stacks the deck.
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    re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by BobbyO View Post
    Why would his opinion be embarrassing? Heck , their Mozzila own press release says the value of the opinions and diversity of all their employees. Even praises public actions, which Eich did not do .
    It really depends on how much his opinion reflects on the company. The CEO's public effect is disproportionate to the rest of the employees, and his beliefs will disproportionately reflect on the company. If Bob in accounting is a homophobe, then who cares? He's just Bob. Of course, Bob's behavior could escalate such that he too will begin to reflect on the company, and would probably be asked to leave.

    As I said earlier in the thread, the lines can be quite blurry on this type of issue. Perfect (and real life) example: a teacher, in her off time, makes a porn video, which is eventually discovered by one of her students. She is subsequently fired. Was this her own off time behavior and is thus immune to disciplinary action, or does her making a porn video reflect negatively on the image the school is trying to project and thus warrant a firing? For what it's worth I don't think there's a black and white answer to that question, but when the subject is the ceo/principal I think the answer becomes decidedly less murky.
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    re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    It really depends on how much his opinion reflects on the company. The CEO's public effect is disproportionate to the rest of the employees, and his beliefs will disproportionately reflect on the company. If Bob in accounting is a homophobe, then who cares? He's just Bob. Of course, Bob's behavior could escalate such that he too will begin to reflect on the company, and would probably be asked to leave.

    As I said earlier in the thread, the lines can be quite blurry on this type of issue. Perfect (and real life) example: a teacher, in her off time, makes a porn video, which is eventually discovered by one of her students. She is subsequently fired. Was this her own off time behavior and is thus immune to disciplinary action, or does her making a porn video reflect negatively on the image the school is trying to project? I don't think there's a black and white answer to that question, but when the subject is the ceo/principal I think the answer becomes decidedly less murky.
    I suspect if bob from accounting went on the news and said, I am bob from accounting at xyz company and I donated against prop 8. He would probably get fired or at least a reprimand.

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    re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by tacomancer View Post
    I suspect if bob from accounting went on the news and said, I am bob from accounting at xyz company and I donated against prop 8. He would probably get fired or at least a reprimand.
    And I would agree.

    One of the many misunderstandings regarding the freedom of speech is that it merely grants you the right to voice your opinion. What it does not do is grant you immunity from any consequences that result from that opinion.

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    re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    but not everyone has the same financial advantages. A corperation with lots of money should not have greater political influence than a average worker. one man, one vote levels the playing field while money stacks the deck.
    That's irrelevant. No one should lose their livelyhood for donating to a political campaign.
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    re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    We have freedom of speech but that should only mean there are no consequences from the govt.

    Individuals, customers, the public....all can act or react as they choose, within the law.

    There are definitely consequences to free speech.
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    re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That's irrelevant. No one should lose their livelyhood for donating to a political campaign.
    "No one?" Are you sure you don't want to think that one through a little bit longer?

    Senator Ultra Liberal donates to the Nazi Party. Should he lose his job over this, yes or no?

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    re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    We can't have anything resembling a real democracy*if people are only allowed to publicly express opinions that their boss has approved.

    *including representational democracy
    Well I think there have been plenty of consequences for people, derived from social media, and their employers. And the same for civil servants as well.

    And they werent of people breaking the law or even breaking company policy, etc.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Seems to me like Eich dodged a bullet. From what I read, he donated money to a California Proposition a majority of the voters agreed with him on.

    Now, the PC police think that bit of history is enough to destroy a mans career. Just as they did to countless business owners throughout the state, the rabid hypocrites in the LGBT community see a policy of "destroy" as the proper way to address differences in philosophy.

    Oh well. Their reputation is certainly getting carved deeper in stone.

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