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    re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    As I said, I think it is OK to limit a CEO's public expression of opinion because CEOs do represent the company to investors, clients and the public. For lower level employees there should be a right to freely express opinions or live any lifestyle outside of work. I would like to laws protecting that right. Such a law would also protect companies form being held responsible for the opinions of their employees since they would not be allowed to control the employee's activities outside of work.
    I believe those protections should be in place for all levels.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    I wasn't referring to democracy within a company, I'm referring to the general political impact of people facing a risk of getting fired for expressing their political opinions outside of work.
    The CEO is the face of the company, and will always face greater scrutiny than some schlub in accounts. Would you say Obama is more or less accountable for their opinions than, say, me? Would you say his opinions and political endorsements have such an impact on the country that he should be accountable for them?

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    re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Another just interesting little notion that popped in my head over this....

    So we're saying that the private actions of an executive made public are reasonable targets for scorn, condemnation, and calls for removal from his professional office?
    Yes, because the CEO was DEFINITELY asked if he had any private affairs, past or present, that might embarrass the company by going counter to the company's image.

    I'm pretty sure that's a standard part of a CEO interview process. And he presumably told them "no worries". That's fraud.

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    re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    political donations as private infomation, when the donations are being used to support Publicly elected officals?
    Well hell, let's make votes piblic, too.
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    re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    you are correct
    like everything else that has a basic legal definition and sometimes more clearly defined by company policies but proof is needed that those definitions were met.

    Is there any proof that there was a factual and legal hostile workplace?

    again so far i see zero issue with the actual info and facts we have
    Campaigning to get another employee fired seems rather hostile.

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    re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    Boy people really can't read can they? I already stated that I don't care if another browser support gay marriage. What I despise is corporations firing or inviting to leave employees who donate to political ideology. As River has been saying all through this thread that this is a dangerous precedent for ANY corporation to follow. People will and often do vote with their pocket books, and as many people who support gay marriage there are as many if not more that support traditional marriage and find absolutely nothing wrong with anyone donating to a cause that is trying to preserve that philosophy.

    The bigots here are the Mozilla firefox clowns. Facebook, Twitter and any other social media can flare up quickly, and Mozilla and any other corporation doesn't want that, and would be wise to just stay out of the whole taking a stand routine. This man didn't do anything wrong, and he should not be pressured to step down for doing it.

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    You are wrong about public opinion on same sex marriage

    Support for same-sex marriage hits new high; half say Constitution guarantees right - The Washington Post



    Also, here is another interesting article:

    Majority of young conservatives accept same-sex marriage | The Daily Texan

    In poll data released last week, the Pew Research Center reported 61 percent of Republicans and those who lean toward the Republican Party aged 18 to 29 favor the legal marriage of same-sex couples, as opposed to the 27 percent aged 50 and older.
    College Republicans, a conservative student group on campus, adheres to the official ideology of the GOP, according to Zach Berberich, accounting junior and communications director for the organization. Berberich said students coming into UT tend to have a high respect for individual liberty.
    “College students tend to come in with really libertarian viewpoints,” Berberich said. “A lot of students think it’s not the government’s job to intervene at all in marriage. A lot of us tend to say ‘it’s not our business. As long as it’s not hurting us, then let it be.’”
    looks like the younger generations on all ideologies are shifting towards acceptance. Younger folks being the most tech oriented, it was a good move on mozilla's part.

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    re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Well hell, let's make votes piblic, too.
    Votes are private because we don't want voters to be forced to choose someone againist their beliefs.

    Political donations on the other hand should be public knowledge because there is a difference between a political donation and bribery.
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    re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Yes, because the CEO was DEFINITELY asked if he had any private affairs, past or present, that might embarrass the company by going counter to the company's image.

    I'm pretty sure that's a standard part of a CEO interview process. And he presumably told them "no worries". That's fraud.
    Why would his opinion be embarrassing? Heck , their Mozzila own press release says the value of the opinions and diversity of all their employees. Even praises public actions, which Eich did not do .

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    re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by BobbyO View Post
    Why would his opinion be embarrassing? Heck , their Mozzila own press release says the value of the opinions and diversity of all their employees. Even praises public actions, which Eich did not do .
    He was released for going against the company's image. You don't think they asked the CEO, in interview, if he had any personal affairs that might be counter to the company's image?

    I'm sure they did.


    Sure, who cares about cashiers, but the CEO is -the- representative of the company. His personal life is in play during the interview process.

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    re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    I'm just a single voice, but it's mine and I intend to use it whenever I can.

    Tim-
    I just find it funny that a thousand dollar contribution to an anti same sex marriage campaign could culminate into some dude taking a web browser off his computer. What a strange world we live in today.

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