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Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

digsbe said:
Really, how is this any different than firing or harassing someone over their views on homosexuality or if they've had homosexual sex? It's not much different, at the root he was fired/harassed over his personal views and lifestyle choice with his own money.
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was he "fired" i havent read that yet?
and was he "illegally" harrased or people just expressed the same freedoms he has

NOT a trick question either, i honestly dont know i didnt read any of that. Says he stepped down and people voiced their opinions of his actions. DO you have an article to what im missing
 
digsbe said:
Really, how is this any different than firing or harassing someone over their views on homosexuality or if they've had homosexual sex? It's not much different, at the root he was fired/harassed over his personal views and lifestyle choice with his own money.
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Not all personal views are equal.
 
AGENT J said:
was he "fired" i havent read that yet?
and was he "illegally" harrased or people just expressed the same freedoms he has

NOT a trick question either, i honestly dont know i didnt read any of that. Says he stepped down and people voiced their opinions of his actions. DO you have an article to what im missing
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He "stepped down" amid "controversy" over his personal beliefs. I think it's obvious as to why. Websites like OKCupid were attacking Mozilla and it hit the news with attacks on the company over the new CEO's beliefs.

People have a right to boycott and free speech. But if people are going to go to the point that they will literally hate and wish to harm businesses/workers over their personal beliefs then they may want to reevaluate themselves. That's like demanding a business or CEO step down because they are a homosexual or have supported SSM.
Peter Grimm said:
/deletes firefox and installs google chrome.

Carry on.
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If you're wanting a browser with a company that supports social conservatism or traditional marriage Google probably also isn't for you. They've publicly advocated for pro-gay issues and SSM stuff.

ecofarm said:
Not all personal views are equal.
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Not all of them are subjects of political hot topics either. We have actors and CEO's who cheat on spouses all the time and engage in all kinds of corruption. Heck, some others may even be contributing to human rights violations in countries used for cheap labor. I think it's silly that a guy donating $1000 to a pro-prop 8 groups gets this kind of outcry while others don't.
 
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digsbe said:
He "stepped down" amid "controversy" over his personal beliefs. I think it's obvious as to why. Websites like OKCupid were attacking Mozilla and it hit the news with attacks on the company over the new CEO's beliefs.

People have a right to boycott and free speech. But if people are going to go to the point that they will literally hate and wish to harm businesses/workers over their personal beliefs then they may want to reevaluate themselves. That's like demanding a business or CEO step down because they are a homosexual or have supported SSM.


If you're wanting a browser with a company that supports social conservatism or traditional marriage Google probably also isn't for you. They've publicly advocated for pro-gay issues and SSM stuff.
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Wrong in one very important detail(and a couple small ones I will let slide): the controversy was not over his beliefs, but over his actions. This is a large, unsubtle, important distinction.
 
RiverDad said:
Maybe you're right. Tim Cook, the CEO of Apple, is homosexual. If his being homosexual gets in the way of Apple's image then I'm sure that you'd be OK with them firing him. Same with a woman CEO.

I'm fine with one standard being applied across the board.

But here's some more history about liberal/homosexual totalitarianism:

Scott Eckern, the Sacramento theater director whose political donation in support of California's Prop. 8 ban on same-sex marriage has become a lightning rod in the debate over gay rights, resigned today.​

Frontiers magazine is reporting that Marjorie "Margie" Christoffersen has stepped down as manager of El Coyote restaurant and resigning as a board member over all the Prop 8 hooplah. The controversy started when the LGBT community found out Christoffersen donated $100 to the Yes on Prop 8 campaign​

The whole point of open-records laws is to bring transparency to politics, to insure that corruption is not taking place. Instead we see liberals/homosexuals launching vendettas. OK, if that's the new game, then I say employers should have complete freedom to fire homosexuals and liberals just for voting Democrat.
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Well, a couple points here. First, if I were going to work for a company whose image was very conservative and intolerant, I'd be verrrrrry careful not to air my politics. Second, how would you go about uncovering the politics of an employee?
 
AGENT J said:
was he "fired" i havent read that yet?
and was he "illegally" harrased or people just expressed the same freedoms he has

NOT a trick question either, i honestly dont know i didnt read any of that. Says he stepped down and people voiced their opinions of his actions. DO you have an article to what im missing
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He stepped down.
 
Peter Grimm said:
/deletes firefox and installs google chrome.

Carry on.
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Out of the frying pan into the fire? Google is even more vehemently pro equal rights than any other browser and have done far worse to bigots than this.
 
Redress said:
Wrong in one very important detail(and a couple small ones I will let slide): the controversy was not over his beliefs, but over his actions. This is a large, unsubtle, important distinction.
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The action of donating $1000 to a pro-prob 8 group? Mozilla as a company, from what I read, if pretty LGBTQ friendly.
 
Zinthaniel said:
Out of the frying pan into the fire? Google is even more vehemently pro equal rights than any other browser and have done far worse to bigots than this.
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Oh dear, where is a bigot to go?
 
digsbe said:
If you're wanting a browser with a company that supports social conservatism or traditional marriage Google probably also isn't for you. They've publicly advocated for pro-gay issues and SSM stuff.


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If you're seriously looking for a web browser that supports your views, you are nutty. What would this browser do, only bring up links from the Blaze or Conservapedia?
 
Peter Grimm said:
You know he could probably sue Mozilla for that. Donating to a political cause is not a fireable offense.
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Poorly representing the company is cause to fire a representative.
 
digsbe said:
The action of donating $1000 to a pro-prob 8 group? Mozilla as a company, from what I read, if pretty LGBTQ friendly.
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You must admit, if he had not taken that action, he would still be employed, no matter what his beliefs are. No thought police.
 
Zinthaniel said:
Out of the frying pan into the fire? Google is even more vehemently pro equal rights than any other browser and have done far worse to bigots than this.
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A Google executive resigned from World Vision's board today for the sole reason that the charity has decided to exclude its gay employees.
 
Cardinal said:
He wasn't fired.
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Oh lord. Read, people.

I was responding to ecofarm, he said he would personally fire someone for an offense like this. I was simply reminding him that you can't really fire someone for something like this.

Probably why he left on his own, with a big fat check and a smile on his face. They bribed him out.
 
rocket88 said:
If you're seriously looking for a web browser that supports your views, you are nutty. What would this browser do, only bring up links from the Blaze or Conservapedia?
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I'm typing this on Google chrome right now and have both browsers installed...

My views are that I'm pro SSM. I'm just against the hackery and bigotry/hate that constantly comes from the pro-SSM side directed at those that support traditional marriage though.

Thanks for the judgement though.
 
Peter Grimm said:
Such as?
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They use their popularity to shame and or bring attention to individuals or corporations they view as intolerant. Their most recent was their stance against the soichi Olympics.

Google makes statement about Russian anti-gay law

Google and its founders have been outspoken supporters of gay rights since 2008, when the company got involved in the campaign to defeat a gay marriage ban on the California ballot. In 2012 it launched a global workplace safety campaign, called "Legalise Love," that it described as a call to decriminalize homosexuality and eliminate homophobia around the world. The company also recognizes gay pride season each year by customizing search boxes to turn rainbow-colored when terms like "gay" and "gay pride" are entered.
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Had this man worked for them he would have been kicked to the curve in the same fashion. So you are not really making a statement by going to chrome.
 
Peter Grimm said:
Oh lord. Read, people.

I was responding to ecofarm, he said he would personally fire someone for an offense like this. I was simply reminding him that you can't really fire someone for something like this.

Probably why he left on his own, with a big fat check and a smile on his face. They bribed him out.
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Ah, yes. Actually that was my thought too.
 
Peter Grimm said:
Such as?
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Google's a great company:

Google launched a new campaign on Saturday supporting lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) rights around the world.

Dot 429 reports that the initiative, called "Legalize Love," debuted in Poland and Singapore, and "will focus on places with homophobic cultures, where anti-gay laws exist," though it will operate in every city in which Google has an office.

"We want our employees who are gay or lesbian or transgender to have the same experience outside the office as they do in the office," Google executive Mark Palmer-Edgecumbe is quoted by Dot 429 as saying. "It is obviously a very ambitious piece of work."

Google Announces Worldwide 'Legalize Love' Campaign Plan In Support Of Gay Rights
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