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    re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    The last dregs of the workforce that thinks like he does have naturally left through attrition, another generation moves in. It is always that way, standing around and being an angry old throwback does nothing (except make that person look like an angry old crank)
    Really? You clearly misunderstand the workforce. California supported the law he donated in support of. Largely lifted by African-American and Hispanic vote. Guess what.. Hispanic population is the largest growing population so no.. the work force is rid of the "dregs".

    For myself, I am in my mid 30s and I don't believe in gay marriage. But that doesn't mean I don't believe in civil unions or rights for same-sex couples. I think marriage is a religious invention and thus should be left to the religion to decide. Now what's wrong with that view? Absolutely nothing legally speaking because marriage is a church related event but according to the law marriage and civil union are the same things.
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    re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

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    re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by austrianecon View Post
    Societal backlash? You mean bloggers who eat cheetos in their parent's basement. Wonder if the societal backlash is gonna go as far as uninstalling Java Script cause that's what he developed and coded for Netscape, then help found Mozilla foundation and the chief architect of Mozilla... oh that's right.. they just didn't want him as CEO but they have no problem using Java or Mozilla.
    Mhmm... Right and Alan Turning, a gay man, invented the modern computer without which the homophobic ex-ceo would not have been able to develop his script. So I guess we are all using each other and hating each other at the same time.
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    re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Burn it down.
    I was trying to find the right response capturing that sentiment but you nailed it.

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    re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    So just to understand your stance

    Donating to a political campaign, organization, or entity is reasonable grounds for firing to you?

    On a legal level, or on a personal "right and wrong" level?

    I will say, I don't see a large issue legally here.

    I do think this is a symptom of our continually crumbling society that's spiraling into a political black hole, where politics and causes infiltrate everything and becomes a pseudo war between each side with an "any means necessary attitude".

    Be it chick-fil-a firing an employee because they volunteer for a pro-choice group or Starbucks firing someone for being an NRA member, it just sits somewhat off for me for companies to devolve to the point of utilizing people's livelihoods as a weapon in a political battle. This one is a bit more complicated due to the person being a CEO, but it still sits off with me as a concept.

    At least Fiddy is forthright in his intent and description of what he wants to see happen.

    For years I've described "hyperpartisan" as someone who contorts every situation into one that is a political "us good vs them bad" situation. Well, taking a political donation to a relatively mainstream cause (like it or not, opposing gay marriage is hardly tantamount to something like deporting all Muslims or some other extreme notion) of an individual and using it as a means of boycotting a company (potentially damaging a fair number of innocents) in order to cause someone to lose their job screams of a society that is bordering on becoming rather hyperpartisan
    I will try and remember to get back to you when I get home tomorrow and am at a keyboard and not typing on a tablet. Short answer till then...it depends on circumstances. A CEO is a direct, top representative of a company. They are held to different standards. Some causes are more controversial than others. Some causes effect those who use a companies products. And so on. In this case, you had a confluence of such factors.

    And personally, I had no problem with him as CEO, and would have continued to use their flagship product, which I love. Ask me about my new Firefox add on I got that helps me translate Japanese.
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    re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by austrianecon View Post
    1.)Really? You clearly misunderstand the workforce. California supported the law he donated in support of. Largely lifted by African-American and Hispanic vote. Guess what.. Hispanic population is the largest growing population so no.. the work force is rid of the "dregs".

    2.)For myself, I am in my mid 30s and I don't believe in gay marriage.
    3.)But that doesn't mean I don't believe in civil unions
    4.) or rights for same-sex couples.
    5.) I think marriage is a religious invention and thus should be left to the religion to decide.
    6.)Now what's wrong with that view?
    7.)Absolutely nothing legally speaking because marriage is a church related event
    8.)but according to the law marriage and civil union are the same things.
    1.) people dont get to vote on others rights thats why this was fixed so regardless of what opinions people have or what they are on this issue it doesnt matter just like interracial marriage and equal rights for women and minorities.

    2.) you have that right, awesom for you that you wont be impacted by gays gaining equal rights

    3.) marriage is a civil union and very specif civil union and others are not equal to it

    4.) this is impossible. If you arent for SSM then you arent for gay rights

    5.) religious marriage has nothing to do with legal marriage they are separate things so religion has no place in the debate about legal marriage nor is it affected.

    6.) nothing is wrong with that "view" because thats already how it is now and it doesnt affect the rights of others

    7.) wrong, just religious marriage is a church event

    8.) this is also factually false marriage is a type of civil union but they are not the same.
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    re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Zinthaniel View Post
    Mhmm... Right and Alan Turning, a gay man, invented the modern computer without which the homophobic ex-ceo would not have been able to develop his script. So I guess we are all using each other and hating each other at the same time.
    And who says he's homophobic? Nowhere does his donation say he's homophobic. Problem is people can't understand the difference between being Homophobic and not supporting gay marriage.
    Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. It is inaccurate to say that I hate everything. I am strongly in favor of common sense, common honesty, and common decency. This makes me forever ineligible for public office. H.L Mencken

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    re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Burn it down.
    They're getting lost in all this corruption and idealism, no common sense anymore.

    The Koch Brothers probably can't be fired.
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    re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverDad View Post
    I had hiring and managerial authority when I was in the business world. I didn't care about the personal lives or opinions of the people I hired and managed.

    Right now I'm in a line of work where I don't have hiring authority. What I'm saying is that liberals and homosexuals are teaching me some good lessons. No holds barred. Harm your political enemies. Do whatever it takes to harm people with opinions different than you. I saw it with Chick-fil-A, I saw it with Phil Robertson, and now I see it with Brendan Eich. Show no nuance, show no tolerance, show nothing but brute power. OK, I'm learning.
    Chick-fil-A was donating money to Winshape, which bankrolls legislative forces in Uganda who fund homosexual death squads. I'm not sure what level of tolerance or patience you think they deserve from people they pay to be killed in other parts of the world.
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    re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by austrianecon View Post
    And who says he's homophobic? Nowhere does his donation say he's homophobic. Problem is people can't understand the difference between being Homophobic and not supporting gay marriage.
    this is true, he may very well NOT be homophobic.

    not supporting gay marriage alone doesnt make him a homophone
    not supporting gay marriage doesnt make him a bigot
    not supporting gay marriage doesnt make him a hater


    but actively trying to stop gay rights does make him a bigot.
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