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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Don't ask don't tell was a compromise to the anti-gay right so gay people can serve. Before that gay people couldn't serve without lying. I'd say Clinton did more for gays than any CON or the right did previously.
    Interestingly, opposition to allowing openly gay service was led by Dem Senator Sam Nunn. Barry Goldwater favored allowing openly gay service. Clinton compromised on DADT to keep peace among Dems.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Interestingly, opposition to allowing openly gay service was led by Dem Senator Sam Nunn. Barry Goldwater favored allowing openly gay service. Clinton compromised on DADT to keep peace among Dems.

    Don't ask, don't tell - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    So are you trying to claim the majority of Republicans were FOR gays serving openly in the military?

    BTW I didn't claim that ALL Dems were for it, I claimed it was a compromise for the majority of Republicans that WERE against gays serving.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    So are you trying to claim the majority of Republicans were FOR gays serving openly in the military?

    BTW I didn't claim that ALL Dems were for it, I claimed it was a compromise for the majority of Republicans that WERE agaisnt gays serving.
    Clinton didn't need the Repubs but he needed Nunn and conservative Dems. In addition to Goldwater, Colin Powell favored DADT.
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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Don't ask don't tell was a compromise to the anti-gay right so gay people can serve. Before that gay people couldn't serve without lying. I'd say Clinton did more for gays than any CON or the right did previously.
    It should also be noted, DADT, for all its flaws, was a pretty monumental step forward at the time. Open service was never, ever going to get approved in the 1990s -- hell, we had pretty prominent voices speaking against it in 2011 when it was done away with. The U.S. has really evolved by leaps and bounds in the last two decades on the subject of gay rights.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    And yet the evidence says it was the Democrats who crafted 'Don't Ask - Don't Tell' and the Defense of Marriage Act. Obama always claimed to be against Gay Marriage.
    DOMA was introduced on the House floor by Bob Barr, a Republican. However, it passed pretty overwhelmingly.
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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Do you not feel a twinge of embarrassment trying to cover for him when his position was made perfectly clear? It is the same with Obama.

    Why not just accept the truth and deal with is rather than feel the need to defend 'your side', even at the cost of your own integrity?
    You said democrats drafted DADT and DOMA. Not true. GOPers drafted and pushed both. Are you ashamed the GOP sponsored DOMA and instead of DADT wanted a complete ban on service? You should be proud no?

    And Obama has done more for gays than any POTUS in history and it's not close. Remember him calling off his lawyers from defending DOMA, and it being struck down. The EO granting federal benefits to SSM? The end of DADT pushed hard by the WH? Not sure why you are bringing him up. His record speaks for itself.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    You said democrats drafted DADT and DOMA. Not true. GOPers drafted and pushed both. Are you ashamed the GOP sponsored DOMA and instead of DADT wanted a complete ban on service? You should be proud no?

    And Obama has done more for gays than any POTUS in history and it's not close. Remember him calling off his lawyers from defending DOMA, and it being struck down. The EO granting federal benefits to SSM? The end of DADT pushed hard by the WH? Not sure why you are bringing him up. His record speaks for itself.
    But Obama said once in 2008 that he was against gay marriage; ergo, Worst President Ever.
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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    You said democrats drafted DADT and DOMA. Not true. GOPers drafted and pushed both. Are you ashamed the GOP sponsored DOMA and instead of DADT wanted a complete ban on service? You should be proud no?

    And Obama has done more for gays than any POTUS in history and it's not close. Remember him calling off his lawyers from defending DOMA, and it being struck down. The EO granting federal benefits to SSM? The end of DADT pushed hard by the WH? Not sure why you are bringing him up. His record speaks for itself.
    This is your 'evolving' President.Timeline of Obama’s ‘Evolving’ on Same-Sex Marriage - ABC News

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    So are you trying to claim the majority of Republicans were FOR gays serving openly in the military?

    BTW I didn't claim that ALL Dems were for it, I claimed it was a compromise for the majority of Republicans that WERE against gays serving.
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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

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    The problem is the left's destruction of diversity.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

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