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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Ah, so it's all those invisible liberals cheering.





    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/05/te...t-mozilla.html

    I don't know how many people were "behind this." I also don't see how it's relevant.
    No, Kobie. This isn't the only corner of the internet I visit.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    No, Kobie. This isn't the only corner of the internet I visit.
    Me either.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Nobody suggested it was the only place you visit, Kobie. But I mention "the left", and you melted down. So either you're guilty, and assume my words were directed towards you (which by the way - they weren't), or you think I only get my internet time on here.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Nobody suggested it was the only place you visit, Kobie. But I mention "the left", and you melted down. So either you're guilty, and assume my words were directed towards you (which by the way - they weren't), or you think I only get my internet time on here.
    "Melted down"? Give me a break.

    Thing is, wherever else you're getting your internet on, you apparently saw SOME liberals applauding, and immediately it became "the left."

    One one hand, the left wants executives to stay out of their employees' personal lives. Then they want executives to take ownership of their employees' personal lives. Then they say corporations aren't people, but the attack on Eich was because of something he did as a person, not representative of or having an impact on the corporation.
    "The left" is not a hivemind. This is a consistently used rhetorical ploy by many conservatives here -- if one supposed liberal says or believes something, then we all do.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    "The left" is not a hivemind.
    Yes, it is, which is why they are called 'the left'. Others are in the middle and on the right, neither of whom would have bothered much with this issue, or defended Mozilla, or those who made these private donations public..

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Yes, it is
    Stopped reading there. The fact that you actually believe this, that all liberals think and feel the exact same way about every single thing, is exactly why I take very little of what you post seriously.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    "Melted down"? Give me a break.

    Thing is, wherever else you're getting your internet on, you apparently saw SOME liberals applauding, and immediately it became "the left."



    "The left" is not a hivemind.
    Yes, you melted down by cursing at me twice. I haven't cursed at anyone on this thread or elsewhere on this board.

    I saw quite a few Liberals rejoicing.

    And if you were being truly honest, you would admit that my use of "the left" is no broader than your use of "the employees of Mozilla".

    The left is no more a hivemind than the right. Can I quote you on that when people start to rant about the right?

    By the way, my point is still the same. If corporations aren't people, then people also can't be corporations. There should be a line drawn between a person's corporate life and a person's personal life. Someone in this case didn't understand it. But I will venture a guess that some of those same people who decided Eich was a bigot for a donation he made on his off-Mozilla time would be very disgruntled if their off-work time and beliefs they held were subject to any scrutiny.

    That is my opinion.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Nah, sounds like you made up that ownership thingy.
    yep this is what happened

    theres no faster way to get a post not taken seriously then to group the left/right/liberals, conservatives together

    now mistakes happen and honest, educated and objective people simply admit the mistake when it happens

    the facts is many on the rights support free speech and equal rights for gays and as soon as one denies that or says its a left issue they have lost the deabte
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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Yes, you melted down by cursing at me twice. I haven't cursed at anyone on this thread or elsewhere on this board.
    Cursing is not a meltdown. Stop reaching for the fainting couch because someone used a naughty word. This is not Sunday School.

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I saw quite a few Liberals rejoicing.
    That's nice. I didn't.

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    And if you were being truly honest, you would admit that my use of "the left" is no broader than your use of "the employees of Mozilla".
    Of course it is. You're referring to one entire side of the (often false) political dichotomy; I was referring to the employees of one software firm.

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    The left is no more a hivemind than the right. Can I quote you on that when people start to rant about the right?
    You go right ahead. You'll have a hard time finding me painting with that extremely broad brush, though.

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    By the way, my point is still the same. If corporations aren't people, then people also can't be corporations. There should be a line drawn between a person's corporate life and a person's personal life. Someone in this case didn't understand it. But I will venture a guess that some of those same people who decided Eich was a bigot for a donation he made on his off-Mozilla time would be very disgruntled if their off-work time and beliefs they held were subject to any scrutiny.

    That is my opinion.
    How things went down has been explained in detail in the NYT link I've posted several times (a link that has been summarily dismissed by some of our more fervent right-wing brethren who are desperate to find any way they can to use this as proof that liberals are the Worst People Ever). This has nothing to do with Corporate Personhood.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Yes, you melted down by cursing at me twice. I haven't cursed at anyone on this thread or elsewhere on this board.

    I saw quite a few Liberals rejoicing.

    And if you were being truly honest, you would admit that my use of "the left" is no broader than your use of "the employees of Mozilla".

    The left is no more a hivemind than the right. Can I quote you on that when people start to rant about the right?

    By the way, my point is still the same. If corporations aren't people, then people also can't be corporations. There should be a line drawn between a person's corporate life and a person's personal life. Someone in this case didn't understand it. But I will venture a guess that some of those same people who decided Eich was a bigot for a donation he made on his off-Mozilla time would be very disgruntled if their off-work time and beliefs they held were subject to any scrutiny.

    That is my opinion.
    Um, people's off work time beliefs are scrutinized by employers. No one seems to give a cr*p about it and I can't for the life of me understand why that is? Well, I do. Because by making Eich some kind of victim it makes great hay for political bickering.

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