Page 166 of 179 FirstFirst ... 66116156164165166167168176 ... LastLast
Results 1,651 to 1,660 of 1784

Thread: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

  1. #1651
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Canada, Costa Rica
    Last Seen
    05-16-16 @ 09:45 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    31,645

    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I hope it's true about having to pay him a lot.

    I still haven't figured out what exactly the Eich opponents were looking to gain by this, except the hopes that they ruined his life, and some sort of symbolic win. They didn't ruin his life, and the symbolic win won't help them garner public support beyond what they already had.
    I believe they felt it was an opportunity to demonstrate their power and take further control of the political and social agenda. They already have undue influence in both these areas but, as is human nature, want more. This might finally incur a backlash against these intellectually and morally challenged yahoos but we will see. It might, as many have predicted, soon turn violent.

  2. #1652
    Kinky
    tres borrachos's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    New England
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 03:53 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    39,234

    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Depends on which "Eich opponents" you're referring to.

    1. The people who worked at Mozilla made it unequivocally clear that they had a big problem working for this guy. Certainly sounds to me like they got exactly what they wanted.

    2. OKCupid (whose "anti-Eichness" appeared to be limited to asking Mozilla users nicely not to use Firefox to access OKCupid) didn't get anything.
    1. How many?

    2. OkCupid got some free publicity out of this

  3. #1653
    Kinky
    tres borrachos's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    New England
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 03:53 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    39,234

    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    I believe they felt it was an opportunity to demonstrate their power and take further control of the political and social agenda. They already have undue influence in both these areas but, as is human nature, want more. This might finally incur a backlash against these intellectually and morally challenged yahoos but we will see. It might, as many have predicted, soon turn violent.
    Eich was offered the job as CEO to run Mozilla. Running Mozilla didn't and shouldn't include an interest in who his employees marry. There is no evidence that Eich did anything to suppress the rights of his employees while he was CTO.

    One one hand, the left wants executives to stay out of their employees' personal lives. Then they want executives to take ownership of their employees' personal lives. Then they say corporations aren't people, but the attack on Eich was because of something he did as a person, not representative of or having an impact on the corporation.

    It is like watching bipolar people debate themselves, and losing.

  4. #1654
    The Dude
    Kobie's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Location
    Western NY
    Last Seen
    Today @ 02:33 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    42,908

    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    1. How many?

    2. OkCupid got some free publicity out of this
    1. How the **** do I know? I don't work at Mozilla. I don't know how many people worked there. From the sounds of it, the backlash was pretty severe.

    2. Pretty much.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

  5. #1655
    The Dude
    Kobie's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Location
    Western NY
    Last Seen
    Today @ 02:33 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    42,908

    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Eich was offered the job as CEO to run Mozilla. Running Mozilla didn't and shouldn't include an interest in who his employees marry. There is no evidence that Eich did anything to suppress the rights of his employees while he was CTO.

    One one hand, the left wants executives to stay out of their employees' personal lives. Then they want executives to take ownership of their employees' personal lives. Then they say corporations aren't people, but the attack on Eich was because of something he did as a person, not representative of or having an impact on the corporation.

    It is like watching bipolar people debate themselves, and losing.
    Jesus ****ing Christ. Do you really see "the left" here actually applauding the fact that this guy quit his job? Most people are either ambivalent or flat-out saying it's overkill.

    "Then they want executives to take ownership of their employees' personal lives." WTF???????????????????????
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

  6. #1656
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Canada, Costa Rica
    Last Seen
    05-16-16 @ 09:45 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    31,645

    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Eich was offered the job as CEO to run Mozilla. Running Mozilla didn't and shouldn't include an interest in who his employees marry. There is no evidence that Eich did anything to suppress the rights of his employees while he was CTO.
    Quite right. He had his views on marriage but obviously kept them to himself.

    One one hand, the left wants executives to stay out of their employees' personal lives. Then they want executives to take ownership of their employees' personal lives. Then they say corporations aren't people, but the attack on Eich was because of something he did as a person, not representative of or having an impact on the corporation. It is like watching bipolar people debate themselves, and losing.
    He made a contribution six years ago in support of marriage remaining between a man and a woman, a position the majority of Americans held, including Barrack Obama, George Bush, Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton. Apart from his high level of intelligence he seems to be a mainstream sort of person.

    There was nothing to justify this attack, except as an example of what might happen to those who dare hold a different opinion.
    Last edited by Grant; 04-08-14 at 08:02 PM.

  7. #1657
    Kinky
    tres borrachos's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    New England
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 03:53 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    39,234

    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Jesus ****ing Christ. Do you really see "the left" here actually applauding the fact that this guy quit his job? Most people are either ambivalent or flat-out saying it's overkill.

    "Then they want executives to take ownership of their employees' personal lives." WTF???????????????????????
    Don't be paranoid, Kobie. You may not know this, but the "left" extends beyond the borders of DP.

  8. #1658
    Kinky
    tres borrachos's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    New England
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 03:53 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    39,234

    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    1. How the **** do I know? I don't work at Mozilla. I don't know how many people worked there. From the sounds of it, the backlash was pretty severe.

    2. Pretty much.
    You said "The people who worked at Mozilla made it unequivocally clear that they had a big problem working for this guy." I assumed by that statement, which was very broad, you knew something. I never read how many people were behind this. 10? 100? 25,000? You don't need to swear at me because you don't have an answer.

  9. #1659
    Sage
    rabbitcaebannog's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2013
    Location
    Massachusetts
    Last Seen
    12-09-17 @ 08:35 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    10,918

    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Don't be paranoid, Kobie. You may not know this, but the "left" extends beyond the borders of DP.
    Nah, sounds like you made up that ownership thingy.

  10. #1660
    The Dude
    Kobie's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Location
    Western NY
    Last Seen
    Today @ 02:33 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    42,908

    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Don't be paranoid, Kobie. You may not know this, but the "left" extends beyond the borders of DP.
    Ah, so it's all those invisible liberals cheering.

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    You said "The people who worked at Mozilla made it unequivocally clear that they had a big problem working for this guy." I assumed by that statement, which was very broad, you knew something. I never read how many people were behind this. 10? 100? 25,000? You don't need to swear at me because you don't have an answer.
    Mozilla is not your typical Silicon Valley company.

    Monday morning “town halls” at Mozilla are open to the public and anyone can look at the code that powers Mozilla’s popular Firefox web browser. The company’s employees are encouraged to speak their minds and even criticize the boss on Twitter. Thousands of programmers help Mozilla improve its products — free — because the programmers think it is important.

    But one thing that Mozilla has in common with other tech companies is that it has grown large. It has 1,000 employees, more than $300 million in revenue (mostly from licensing technology to Google) and many competing interests. And Brendan Eich, who resigned as Mozilla’s chief executive on Thursday after just two weeks in the job, may not have been the person to run a company with such expanding interests.

    The question of who is the right person to run Mozilla reached a peak when attention was drawn to a $1,000 donation Mr. Eich made in 2008 to support a California state referendum that banned same-sex marriage. Mozilla employees and members of the programming community criticized Mr. Eich — an influential programmer and a first-time chief executive — for the donation. Instead of addressing the criticism head-on, he insisted that his personal views should not matter to Mozilla.

    Criticism mounted and, combined with Mr. Eich’s refusal to discuss his views, made the situation untenable for Mozilla and Mr. Eich, according to current and former Mozilla board members.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/05/te...t-mozilla.html

    I don't know how many people were "behind this." I also don't see how it's relevant.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •