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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Yeah sure.
    Yeah, really. If people are to be targeted in a "purge" for having supported traditional marriage what else would you call it?
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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahlevah View Post
    Yeah, really. If people are to be targeted in a "purge" for having supported traditional marriage what else would you call it?
    I call it polarizing, but of course that has nothing to do with my post.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    You continue to debate in an imaginary world of your own creation.
    nope just exactly what you said but its a good move distancing yourself from that failed garbage you posted
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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    1.)Donations are a form of speech? Or something. He expressed his opinion through donating, how is that any different from expressing an opinion via talking? One involves money, of course, but so what?
    2.) I care not about that. I care that they expected him to be fired/resign.
    3.) If he was a liberal CEO who opposed Prop 8 and donated money to campaign against it, and demographics in California and Mozilla customers were reversed, would you support his resignation/firing in the face of outrage because he opposed it?
    4.)People are idiots that way. I'm one of em, I should know.
    5.) If I donate money to something I support, how is that not speaking my mind? Just because I use the medium of money to do so? How does that make sense? Money is a way to get your message heard by more people.
    1.) VERY different you dont really need this fact and reality explain to you do you?

    simply saying you think something and actually taking action are HUGELY different.

    there are lots of people that THINK and SAY that they feel marriage is man and wife but they would NEVER actually deny others rights

    he donated money in an attempt to deny others rights.

    hugely different and one is in fact bigotry

    2.) why people expect all types of things

    3.) again i dont "support" anything but equal rights, and as long as your example involves free speech or rights and nothign illegal im all good with it. again, reality and all.

    4.) disagree or not ive never thought you were an "idiot" lol

    5.) didnt say it wasnt speaking your mind i pointed out the huge difference of the circumstance.

    donating money to a cause that is just a cuase is not the same as trying to deny others rights, you have to see that fact.

    if i donate money to the fire department because i believe in such a service is not the same as donating to the Klan.
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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.) VERY different you dont really need this fact and reality explain to you do you?

    simply saying you think something and actually taking action are HUGELY different.

    there are lots of people that THINK and SAY that they feel marriage is man and wife but they would NEVER actually deny others rights

    he donated money in an attempt to deny others rights.

    hugely different and one is in fact bigotry

    2.) why people expect all types of things

    3.) again i dont "support" anything but equal rights, and as long as your example involves free speech or rights and nothign illegal im all good with it. again, reality and all.

    4.) disagree or not ive never thought you were an "idiot" lol

    5.) didnt say it wasnt speaking your mind i pointed out the huge difference of the circumstance.

    donating money to a cause that is just a cuase is not the same as trying to deny others rights, you have to see that fact.

    if i donate money to the fire department because i believe in such a service is not the same as donating to the Klan.
    How is donating money in support of something you believe in any different than donating money in support of something you believe in?

    Just because one wishes to stop SSM and the other wants to support SSM? One is bigotry IMO, it is true, but bigotry is freedom of speech just as anti-bigotry is.

    Freedom of speech is letting the assholes speak their (questionably existent) minds.

    I include donating money in that category, because money is just a vehicle to present your opinion, especially in this case.


    Edit: How can it be considered reasonable or fair to demand someone step down/be fired because you disagree with their choice of topics to speak about?
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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    1.)How is donating money in support of something you believe in any different than donating money in support of something you believe in?

    2.) Just because one wishes to stop SSM and the other wants to support SSM? One is bigotry IMO, it is true, but bigotry is freedom of speech just as anti-bigotry is.

    3.) Freedom of speech is letting the assholes speak their (questionably existent) minds.

    3.) I include donating money in that category, because money is just a vehicle to present your opinion, especially in this case.


    Edit: How can it be considered reasonable or fair to demand someone step down/be fired because you disagree with their choice of topics to speak about?
    1.) again the difference is so obvious and factual.
    donating money to an FD is no where near the same as donating money to say bring back slavery.

    they are going to get different reactions, this fact wont change

    2.) I agree 100% but that doesnt change the response it gets

    3.) also agree that why west boro has it and i would never take it ways from them even though they are complete trash

    4.) again things will always be treated different depending on reality and what they factually are.

    if I tell you i think your wife/daughter/mother/sister is unpleasant or say im not really a fan of hers that is free speech and it may get a reaction from you

    if i tell you i think your wife/daughter/mother/sister is a cock sucking whore and that bitch is nothing but a worthless ****, that is also free speech and will probably get me some free dental work (a DIFFERENT reaction)

    things can be the same and VERY different at the same time
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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    I call it polarizing...
    It's more than polarizing. It's repugnant, and counterproductive to people who support gay rights:

    There is only one permissible opinion at Mozilla, and all dissidents must be purged! Yep, that’s left-liberal tolerance in a nut-shell. No, he wasn’t a victim of government censorship or intimidation. He was a victim of the free market in which people can choose to express their opinions by boycotts, free speech and the like. He still has his full First Amendment rights. But what we’re talking about is the obvious and ugly intolerance of parts of the gay movement, who have reacted to years of being subjected to social obloquy by returning the favor....

    This is a repugnantly illiberal sentiment. It is also unbelievably stupid for the gay rights movement. You want to squander the real gains we have made by argument and engagement by becoming just as intolerant of others’ views as the Christianists? You’ve just found a great way to do this. It’s a bad, self-inflicted blow. And all of us will come to regret it.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    *snip*
    Using your analogy:

    If I tell you your mother is a cocksucking whore, that's free speech.
    If I pay a band to compose a song about your mother being a cocksucking whore, that's ridiculous overkill but also free speech (I think?). And I didn't actually say anything to you personally.

    That's why I'm not seeing the disconnect between a political donation to promote a cause vs saying something to promote a cause.

    Different forms, same intent.
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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Allowing gay couples to enter into a marriage contract = "turning everything upside down."
    That has nothing to do with the thread nor does it have anything to do with his post.
    forcing someone out of a job because they don't agree with your opinion to me is a dangerous road to go down as you make yourself victim to the same.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    no

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    preaching

    that gay marriage is wrong or being gay is wrong is not bigotry

    trying to deni them rights or treating them as leasers is bigotry

    theres a HUGE difference.

    there are lots of people that feel marriage is a man woman thing personally but they fully support equal rights because they respect peoples rights
    OK, I got ya, I think....So, people that disagree with the LGBT agenda are free to have those beliefs, as long as they don't speak them publicly, or donate anything to opposition of them, or else they open themselves to harassment, and attack to the point where they are forced to resign from their job...And this isn't fascism? I mean I get that people are passionate about this issue, but how is it that any squelching of LGBT voicing their agenda in the public square, ie protest, or donation, or what ever would be seen by advocates as a stomping on the free speech rights of the LGBT community, and would be met with ramped up vitriol, and cries of fascistic suppression. However, because it is aimed not AT the LGBT community, but rather at an individual that did little more than donate years ago to a cause on a ballot up for referendum by the people, and chose what is perceived by the passionate as "the wrong side", well, then he must be 'isolated, destroyed, and marginalized' in the purest form of Alinski style debasement.

    How is it that the supporters of these memes cant see how it is that they are carrying out what they claim to be attacking? I just don't get it I suppose.
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