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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Del Zeppnile View Post
    Oh don't try to bring up logic in this debate by asking a question about polygamy, they won't hear you, their hands are over their ears.
    I answered the question about polygamy waaaay back in the thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by Del Zeppnile View Post
    But you see it works this way with those in that camp: If you can change the definition of "gay" to mean homosexual. Then why stop at the definition of "bigotry"? Didn't you get the memo? Bigotry now means disagreement.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    1.)What is with all the numbering of my statements, anyways? I suppose it's easier than quoting individual sections...
    2.)I agree that the trend seems to be towards allowing equal rights/gay marriage/same sex marriage/whateveryoucallit.

    3.)I figured this could be a shortcut, but whatever.

    4.)I wouldn't put it past some areas to hold out for a long time.
    1.) correct thats exactly why i do it and i also do it so as a courtesy to try my best to not miss any individual points so they can all be addressed and so you clearly know what im responding too.
    Over the years i have seen confusion on this with many many threads/posts/posters so i "try" to avoid it in mine.

    2.) this is true the amount of states have doubled in years and this is head for SCOUTS. In fact only ONE federal court of appeals doesnt have a case on this and only 5 states dont have court cases or legislation in the works for this issue.

    3.) shortcut? I doubt that.
    It may have been a POSSIBLE PATH, 25 years ago but not now.

    also are you away how many states that banned gay marriages also banned gay civil unions, domestic partnerships or any gay unions that resemble marriage.

    this is ANOTHER reason why the ant-gays that say its just a word are completely full of **** lol it that was true those bans wouldnt excist.

    Its about gays being "icky" and treating them as lessers

    4.) well like i already said, they wont get that choice. They technically never had that choice they just got away with it. Just like in loving vs Virginia, soon they will not be allowed to deny equal rights and id guess at the longest it will be 2017.

    just some info on it, this is a chart i post and try to keep updated

    Changes/Updates in RED
    3/21/14 Version 8.2

    23 States with Equal Rights (5 pending/stay)

    Massachusetts - May 17, 2004
    Connecticut - November 12, 2008
    Iowa - April 27, 2009
    Vermont - September 1, 2009
    New Hampshire - January 1, 2010
    Washing D.C. - March 9, 2010
    FALL OF DADT Dec 18, 2010
    New York - July 24, 2011
    Washington - December 6, 2012
    Maine - December 29, 2012
    Maryland - January 1, 2013
    FALL OF DOMA - June 26, 2013
    California - June 28, 2013
    Delaware - July 1, 2013
    Rhode Island - August 1, 2013
    Minnesota - August 1, 2013
    New Jersey - October 21, 2013
    Illinois - (ruled on Nov 20th 2013) June 1, 2014 effective
    Hawaii - December 2, 2013
    New Mexico – December 19, 2013
    Utah – December 20. 2013 Currently Stayed and will be ruled on with OK)
    Oklahoma - Currently Stayed and will be ruled on with UT)
    GSK v. Abbott Laboratories - January 21, 2014 (could be huge in gay rights, discrimination/heightened scrutiny)
    Kentucky - February 2/14/14 (Must recognize out-of-state marriages) which will lead to their ban being defeated
    Virginia - February 2/14/14 (Stayed)
    Texas - February 2/26/2014 (pending 10th Circuit Court of Appeals)
    Michigan - March - 21, 2014 (Stay being requested)

    22 States Working Towards Equal Rights

    13 States with Pending Court Cases to Establish Equal Rights[/B]
    Alabama
    Idaho
    [B]Indiana
    Kansas
    Louisiana
    Mississippi
    North Carolina
    Pennsylvania (June 14 Trial)
    South Carolina
    Tennessee (Direct US Constitution Challenge)(Prilim in and 3 couples are recognized, later broader ruling coming)
    West Virginia
    Wisconsin
    Wyoming


    6 States with Court Case(s) and Legislation to establish Equal Rights
    Arizona
    Arkansas (Decision Pending and 2016 ballot)
    Florida
    Missouri
    Nevada
    Ohio (December 2013 trial) Trial had narrow ruling that Ohio will recognize OTHER state marriages but didn’t impact bans. New cases expected.

    3 States with Legislation to Establish Equal Rights
    Alaska
    Colorado
    Oregon

    thats 42 states that could have equal rights by 2016 and some much sooner!

    US Court of Appeals Tracker
    Map: Court Locator
    1st - all states have equal rights
    2nd - all states have equal rights
    3rd - pending
    4th - april/may court case
    5th- pending
    6th - pending
    7th- pending
    8th- two cases that the plaintiffs PLAN to take all the way up if needed but nothing pending
    9th- pending (statement released "as soon as possible")

    Also 3 State Attorney Generals no longer defending the constitutionality of bans, joining the case against them or reviewing their constitutionality
    Nevada
    Oregon
    Pennsylvania

    5 States that still have unequal rights and nothing pending to change it yet, that’s it 5
    Indiana
    Montana
    Nebraska
    Georgia
    North Dakota
    South Dakota

    #EqualRightsAreWinning!!!!!!!!!!!!



    also please feel free to let me know of any corrections or updates that need made, equality is kicking so much ass its hard to keep up, thanks
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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    You're gonna have to do better than a copy of a questionnaire claimed by whom?

    Let me guess... Dan Rather?
    the guy filled it out. I'm sorry if it makes your already incorrect claim look doubly foolish, but again, this isn't exactly conspiracy-theory-forum stuff; ABC News, Politifact, etc - generally supportive media agree that Obama did this, and that his views have evolved in this manner. If the best you can do is insist that the evidence that exists is made up well, there's a crazy-hair lady you should talk to about his birth certificate, too.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    *snip*
    Sigh. Here we go again.
    Education.

    Sometimes I think we're alone. Sometimes I think we're not. In either case, the thought is staggering. ~ R. Buckminster Fuller

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    If "normal" means voting against someone else's relationship, then yes.
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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Del Zeppnile View Post
    Oh don't try to bring up logic in this debate by asking a question about polygamy, they won't hear you, their hands are over their ears.

    But you see it works this way with those in that camp: If you can change the definition of "gay" to mean homosexual. Then why stop at the definition of "bigotry"? Didn't you get the memo? Bigotry now means disagreement.
    They've overused the term 'fascist', which is what they called anyone who disagreed with them, then 'racist', now 'bigot'. There are probably a few of their fashionable terms I missed along the way but the point is that they cannot have a real debate without using these hysterical terms. They are adolescents.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Freedom of speech means letting the assholes speak their minds.
    Yes it does. Something that the left is completely against. Just have to look at how conservative speakers are shouted down, and how quickly and easily leftists should racist and bigot with opinions and positions they disagree with. Talk about squashing another's right to speech.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    I answered the question about polygamy waaaay back in the thread.
    Everyone must be eagerly searching to read it.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    The race isn't even a relevant factor.
    Yeah, wasn't relevant:

    California's black and Latino voters, who turned out in droves for Barack Obama, also provided key support in favor of the state's same-sex marriage ban. Seven in 10 black voters backed a successful ballot measure to overturn the California Supreme Court's May decision allowing same-sex marriage, according to exit polls for The Associated Press.

    More than half of Latino voters supported Proposition 8, while whites were split. Religious groups led the tightly organized campaign for the measure, and religious voters were decisive in getting it passed. Of the seven in 10 voters who described themselves as Christian, two-thirds backed the initiative. Married voters and voters with children strongly supported Proposition 8. Unmarried voters were heavily opposed.

    Blacks = 70%
    Christians = 66%

    Liberals know that it's not politically correct to attacks blacks, so they remain silent instead and direct their attacks on the only group they've permitted themselves to attack - the Christians who they hate.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    They've overused the term 'fascist', which is what they called anyone who disagreed with them, then 'racist', now 'bigot'. There are probably a few of their fashionable terms I missed along the way but the point is that they cannot have a real debate without using these hysterical terms. They are adolescents.


    Yeah, but they sure know how to organize a colorful parade.


    And let's not forget the their completely fabricated word "homophobe", that one always makes me laugh.

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