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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    You freely admit to being human, yet are unprepared to extend the same courtesy to Eich?
    If Eich apologizes for donating a 1000$ towards legislation that oppresses the rights of the lgbt then I would no longer think he is a bigot. He hasn't. He's made no comment. I'm sure he is angry that the gays have the nerve to be upset about his just reasoning for wanting to ban them from marriage. What evidence do we have that shows us he is no longer of that bigoted opinion?
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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    What evidence do you have that he's a bigot? Can it be the LGBT friendly environment that nurtured and supported as a founder of Mozilla?
    Donating towards a proposition who's sole purpose is to deny rights is bigotry.
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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    So, you don't think he changed his mind. You think he covered his true feelings, for decades, just to unleash a fraud upon the American people when the time was right.

    I think Obama said what was expedient at the time both times.

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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    What evidence do you have that he's a bigot? Can it be the LGBT friendly environment that nurtured and supported as a founder of Mozilla?
    the definition of the word bigot makes him one.

    in fact until there's NEW evidence showing he isnt theres no reason to think otherwise unless of course one wants to ignore evidence and definition of words.
    Ill stick with the evidence, facts and definitions.
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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.) correct you want to take it away by force
    2.)civil unions arent equal to marriage nor can they magically be made equal
    3. lmao nobody is bent out of shape im just pointing out the facts to you, What you suggest is impossible
    4.) im not the one struggling with facts, you are

    civil uninons are factually not equal to marriage

    getting rid of marriage and making everything civil unions wont make it equal.

    Again im glad i could clear up your confusion
    A point.

    "Civil unions" Could, in theory, be made entirely equal to "marriages" in the legal sense - apart from having a different name, which might defeat the whole thing....

    What you can't control is the non-legal aspect of things - even if you, legally, require that marriages be considered equal no matter what sex the two parties are, were, or will be...

    Someone will disagree, and, at least informally, consider the two separate.

    I will agree that creating something that is identical except for it's name means it's not identical, and infact I think doing so would reinforce separation between the two.


    Now, if the state (in both the actual state and the federal sense) decided to rename all marriage documents and whatnot as "civil unions", that would be another thing entirely - everyone would be treated equally, so I wouldn't see an issue with it.


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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Zinthaniel View Post
    It doesn't matter when it was done, what matters is that it was done. Time doesn't change his adamant desire to deny a community their right. It's ridiculous that you think it should change things, that everyone should be like - "well it was so long ago let's just pretend it never happened." It did happen and it bit him in the ass 6 years later.
    It does matter. Are you calling for the impeachment of President Obama who held the same belief? That President Obama was running around California and Florida in 2008 supporting Prop 8 within the African-American and Hispanic Community. Nah.. but it was widely known and nobody went after him... wonder why?

    Did anybody ask Eich if his opinion evolved? Nope, so it was a witch hunt which wasn't afforded to others who supported Prop 8, starting with the Democratic Party..
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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Zinthaniel View Post
    What do any of these questions have to do with anything? I freely admit to being human. I have acted out of bigotry in life I have suffered the consequences just like everyone else. I currently do not hold any bigoted views. I believe that as long as an individual is not acting to harm himself or others he should be free to live his life as he chooses with having to duck and doge legislation.
    I hate to break it to you, but yes, you do. You support him losing his job because of him having a different opinion than you do. So, by your rules, you are a bigot.
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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Zinthaniel View Post
    Donating towards a proposition who's sole purpose is to deny rights is bigotry.
    100% correct, by definition that is bigotry.

    He didnt donate to a group that happens to be opposed to gay rights or gays or gays sex, the donation was made has a pledge to prop 8 which its whole purpose was to stop gay rights. That is factual bigotry.
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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Tolerant liberals....only tolerant as long you believe exactly what they believe. If you don't believe their agendas...inconsequentially....you don't deserve a job anymore, or a life, or even the right to vote. Shame on you for not being a puppet. /sarcasm.

    I wish Eich stood up for himself and fought against the bullies...but I guess not everyone can take a stance against radicalism.


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    Re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Zinthaniel View Post
    I do know these things. I have participated is many racially charged discussions with riverdad. Riverdad believes there is nothing wrong racially profiling Africans, because they belong to a group that is "tarnished by their own behavior". He believes if white people want to move away from blacks based on the premise that they have heard or seen other black people behave undesirably then that is ok. He also hates diversity, it bothers him that he has to deal with other cultures in his homeland. He is a white nationalist and would prefer that everyone be white.

    I have also discussed with him sexuality and I have read his discussions. The most telling point he has made is that he is more convinced that Homosexuals suffer from a higher rate of depression not because Society is constantly shunning them but that depression is inherent in the homosexual mind without outside influence.
    OK. This I wasn't party to, so I have no knowledge of them.

    Summary:
    Tarnished by their own behavior - yes
    Whites deciding where they want to live - yes
    I see no greater hating of diversity than those who claim that as their goal, as they generally don't accept diversity in opinion or position, and do all they can to promote theirs over all others
    Homosexuals suffering from depression - no idea

    As one would expect, some I'd agree with, and some I wouldn't. Seems to be more often the case than not.

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