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    re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Hmm, it's not actually clear where they fall on the subject because they're a company in Norway, which has fully legal same sex marriage. They probably wouldn't feel much need to donate to that kind of cause because it's not an issue anymore.
    For the record, I try not to do business with any company that's politically active in any way.

    It's not their place.

    It's improper for a corporation to be politically active. Just focus on your damn product and stay out of the political arena.

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    re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Zinthaniel View Post

    He already gay me one? Freudian slip?

    LOL it's cool. Opera it is.

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    re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Good, Opera it is then. And I'm a Swede so I'm down for supporting my Scandinavian bros.
    Opera is no different their disclaimer on their front page makes that clear.
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    In my own experience here, people seem to ignore a posters professional experience or training if the app pro holds a view that is disagreed with.

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    re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Zinthaniel View Post
    Opera is no different their disclaimer on their front page makes that clear.
    Every company has a disclaimer like that. Not offended by it. As long as they're not politically active they're cool with me.

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    re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    As a non-profit foundation Mozilla is quite dependent on donations a lot more than your typical corporation so it was a practical business decision for him to step down.

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    re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Zinthaniel View Post
    Cardinal already gay you the link for Opera Post #75
    Excuse me, sir, may I...ass...you a question?

    I think he's just trying to find a browser where he's blissfully ignorant of any pro-gay sentiments they might have.

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    re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Free market...the customers spoke. All the religious conservatives are always saying that companies should have the ability to fire anyone, even over their beliefs (unless, of course, it is something they agree with..LOL)

    Mozilla saw the potential fiasco and loss of revenue and consumer support and acted.

    Isn't that how the free market works?
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    re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    1.)He "stepped down" amid "controversy" over his personal beliefs. I think it's obvious as to why.
    2.)Websites like OKCupid were attacking Mozilla and it hit the news with attacks on the company over the new CEO's beliefs.
    3.)People have a right to boycott and free speech.
    4.) But if people are going to go to the point that they will literally hate and wish to harm businesses/workers over their personal beliefs then they may want to reevaluate themselves.
    5.) That's like demanding a business or CEO step down because they are a homosexual or have supported SSM.
    6.)If you're wanting a browser with a company that supports social conservatism or traditional marriage Google probably also isn't for you. They've publicly advocated for pro-gay issues and SSM stuff.
    7.)Not all of them are subjects of political hot topics either. We have actors and CEO's who cheat on spouses all the time and engage in all kinds of corruption. Heck, some others may even be contributing to human rights violations in countries used for cheap labor. I think it's silly that a guy donating $1000 to a pro-prop 8 groups gets this kind of outcry while others don't.
    1.) so he stepped down and wasnt fired or illegally harrased
    2.) they have that freedom
    3.) correct
    4.) depends on the issue
    5.) what are you comparing this to? are you comparing this to what he did? then yes its similar and people have this freedom and rights, Its just like Westboro, they have thier rights. I dont like what they do but they have thier rights
    6.) just an fyi a company and or person can do all three
    7.) im not surprise that many people wouldnt as harshly judge a person who cheated vs a bigot who is against peoples rights. Not condoning either act just saying theres no surprise at all in that for me.
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    re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Oh lord. Read, people.

    I was responding to ecofarm, he said he would personally fire someone for an offense like this. I was simply reminding him that you can't really fire someone for something like this.

    Probably why he left on his own, with a big fat check and a smile on his face. They bribed him out.
    depends on the job. if it were some accountant or it person in the back room, than as a manager i probably wouldn't care. If it were a PR person or an executive who's public persona had impact on the value of the brand, I would absolutely care as it could affect sales. There are no hard and fast rules here and these decisions are contextual and it is legitimate that different criteria be applied to different job functions.

    Alternatively is some muckity much from chick fil a was found to be pro gay rights or perhaps a muckity muck from hobby lobby was found donating to planned parenthood, it would be perfectly legitimate to fire them too. Branding is a value perception and the most powerful brands tend to have a cultural context associated with them. For example, when you think of the word wholesome, what brands do you think of? If you think of family oriented, there are brands associated with that, such as doug and melissa toys. If you think of a bank, you might think of security.
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    re: Mozilla’s CEO steps down amid gay marriage furor[W:577]

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    For the record, I try not to do business with any company that's politically active in any way.

    It's not their place.

    It's improper for a corporation to be politically active. Just focus on your damn product and stay out of the political arena.
    Well, you could always support gay marriage. Then, when it's legal in all fifty states it wouldn't need to even be a political cause anymore. Then you could use any damn browser you want.

    Anyway, let us know how Opera is. I don't know anything about it.

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