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    Re: FBI Seizes Thousands of Artifacts from rural Indiana Home

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    From your article:



    Last I checked it was the FBI's job to enforce the law. Being old is not an excuse. And somehow I kinda doubt the FBI was terribly rough with the old guy.
    According to the fourth amendmen they may not do this without a warrant.

    Also according to the fourth the reasons they give are not justifications for issueing a warant.

    In fact deternmining what an object is etc seems to violate the fourth amendments requirement that particular item to be siezed must be described in a warrant.

    I must be missing the part where the FBI was enforcing the law in this one. The article makes it sound like they are breaking it

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    Re: FBI Seizes Thousands of Artifacts from rural Indiana Home

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    FBI seizes thousands of artifacts from rural Ind. home

    ~snip~ WALDRON, Ind. — FBI agents Wednesday seized "thousands" of cultural artifacts, including American Indian items, from the private collection of a 91-year-old man who had acquired them over the past eight decades. ~snip~

    Um - why? What right does the Federal Bureau of Intimidation have to come into this guy's house and take his art? I don't understand. I mean, if he was an international art thief who had the Mona Lisa hidden behind a Thomas Kincaid painting, I'd say "OK," but they gave no indication in the article that that kind of artwork was found.
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    Re: FBI Seizes Thousands of Artifacts from rural Indiana Home

    Quote Originally Posted by Soupnazi630 View Post
    According to the fourth amendmen they may not do this without a warrant.

    Also according to the fourth the reasons they give are not justifications for issueing a warant.

    In fact deternmining what an object is etc seems to violate the fourth amendments requirement that particular item to be siezed must be described in a warrant.

    I must be missing the part where the FBI was enforcing the law in this one. The article makes it sound like they are breaking it
    Amendment smendment, the G is the law. Period. We are all just a knock on the door away from being felons.

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    Re: FBI Seizes Thousands of Artifacts from rural Indiana Home

    Seems like somebody with an axe to grind snitched on the old man, poor guy. He is quite old so even if he did acquire everything legitimately he will have probably passed on by the time the FBI finishes perusing through it all. Dont the Feds have more important things to do, like going after murderers and terrorists?

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    Re: FBI Seizes Thousands of Artifacts from rural Indiana Home

    It is illegal to treasure hunt indian artifacts and the fact that this guy has so many is suspicious. Years ago we were camping in an alcove in Utah which was very cool. It had petroglyph's on the back wall and it was a kick to spend a few nights in an ancient dwelling. While digging a fire pit I cut a small piece of what looked like fishing line that I assumed some other camper left there as trash at some point. Turns out it was an alarm to guard against artifact hunters and it wasn't long until a BLM cop showed up. I had some splainin to do.

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    Re: FBI Seizes Thousands of Artifacts from rural Indiana Home

    It would seem to me that the justification for this is more an injustice than the old dude possessing the artifacts to begin with.

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    Re: FBI Seizes Thousands of Artifacts from rural Indiana Home

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    It is illegal to treasure hunt indian artifacts and the fact that this guy has so many is suspicious. Years ago we were camping in an alcove in Utah which was very cool. It had petroglyph's on the back wall and it was a kick to spend a few nights in an ancient dwelling. While digging a fire pit I cut a small piece of what looked like fishing line that I assumed some other camper left there as trash at some point. Turns out it was an alarm to guard against artifact hunters and it wasn't long until a BLM cop showed up. I had some splainin to do.
    Yet you could rob 20 banks before the FBI made any head way in catching you.

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    Re: FBI Seizes Thousands of Artifacts from rural Indiana Home

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    FBI seizes thousands of artifacts from rural Ind. home

    ~snip~ WALDRON, Ind. FBI agents Wednesday seized "thousands" of cultural artifacts, including American Indian items, from the private collection of a 91-year-old man who had acquired them over the past eight decades. ~snip~

    Um - why? What right does the Federal Bureau of Intimidation have to come into this guy's house and take his art? I don't understand. I mean, if he was an international art thief who had the Mona Lisa hidden behind a Thomas Kincaid painting, I'd say "OK," but they gave no indication in the article that that kind of artwork was found.
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    Re: FBI Seizes Thousands of Artifacts from rural Indiana Home

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Yet you could rob 20 banks before the FBI made any head way in catching you.
    They had 90 years to catch this guy.

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    Re: FBI Seizes Thousands of Artifacts from rural Indiana Home

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Government loves taking property, it's one of the few things it's really good at.
    It was stolen property. Technically it belongs to the tribe of whatever area it came from.

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