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    Re: Oregon Gov. hopeful links gay marriage with murder

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    Don't you think that we feel the same way? Do you think we want to be forced to recognize (and in some cases participate in) a bastardized version of a ceremony and institution that is deeply rooted in our beliefs?
    Nobody is forcing you to recognize anything, attend anything, or approve of anything. You get to have whatever opinion you feel like having, nobody is talking about making your opinion illegal.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Oregon Gov. hopeful links gay marriage with murder

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    Don't you think that we feel the same way? Do you think we want to be forced to recognize (and in some cases participate in) a bastardized version of a ceremony and institution that is deeply rooted in our beliefs?
    No I do not. I believe the only thing important to right wingnuts is to suppress. judge and punish those different than themselves.

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    Re: Oregon Gov. hopeful links gay marriage with murder

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    He thinks his religion is the only source of morality or any basis of law.
    Of course he does. He believes that those who think differently can't behave in a decent moral manner. There's a word for that.

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    Re: Oregon Gov. hopeful links gay marriage with murder

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Is this like defining racism as noticing someone's race, so that everyone is supposedly a racist and ones own bigotry is excused? It sounds just like it.
    Not at all. if you are going to say you are tolerant of other peoples views but then turn around and call people bigots for expressing a view not in line with yours that doesn't make you to tolerant.

    in this case we have someone claiming that someone is associating gay marriage with murder and they aren't. She is religious and her view says both are sin in which she would be correct.

    people are calling her a bigot for her religious view points. yet their intolerance of her religious views makes them a religious bigot. basically they are the same thing they say they detest.

    if you are going to say you are tolerant and open minded then call people names that do not agree with your ideology then you are anything but tolerant and open minded.

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    Re: Oregon Gov. hopeful links gay marriage with murder

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Nobody is forcing you to recognize anything, attend anything, or approve of anything. You get to have whatever opinion you feel like having, nobody is talking about making your opinion illegal.
    Tell that to the photographer in NM or the florist in OR. Not to mention the countless HR reps and business owners that must provide benefits to and recognize the marriage that is contrary to their beliefs.
    You, my brothers and sisters, were called to be free. But do not use your freedom to indulge the flesh; rather, serve one another humbly in love.For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.”

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    Re: Oregon Gov. hopeful links gay marriage with murder

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    Not at all. if you are going to say you are tolerant of other peoples views but then turn around and call people bigots for expressing a view not in line with yours that doesn't make you to tolerant.

    in this case we have someone claiming that someone is associating gay marriage with murder and they aren't. She is religious and her view says both are sin in which she would be correct.

    people are calling her a bigot for her religious view points. yet their intolerance of her religious views makes them a religious bigot. basically they are the same thing they say they detest.

    if you are going to say you are tolerant and open minded then call people names that do not agree with your ideology then you are anything but tolerant and open minded.
    You are treating "tolerant" as if it's a binary, as if being tolerant means you tolerate absolutely anything that anyone ever does.

    This is a stupid thing to do.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Oregon Gov. hopeful links gay marriage with murder

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    No I do not. I believe the only thing important to right wingnuts is to suppress. judge and punish those different than themselves.
    No one is being suppressed.
    You, my brothers and sisters, were called to be free. But do not use your freedom to indulge the flesh; rather, serve one another humbly in love.For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.”

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    Re: Oregon Gov. hopeful links gay marriage with murder

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    Tell that to the photographer in NM or the florist in OR. Not to mention the countless HR reps and business owners that must provide benefits to and recognize the marriage that is contrary to their beliefs.
    And pilots who aren't allowed to place a sign on the aircraft door that says "NO JEWS ALLOWED."
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Oregon Gov. hopeful links gay marriage with murder

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    And pilots who aren't allowed to place a sign on the aircraft door that says "NO JEWS ALLOWED."
    Yes they are.
    You, my brothers and sisters, were called to be free. But do not use your freedom to indulge the flesh; rather, serve one another humbly in love.For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.”

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    Re: Oregon Gov. hopeful links gay marriage with murder

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Why wont they tolerate my intolerance?

    Is it weird living in a world where tolerating anything means you must tolerate everything?
    that is what tolerance is.

    the ability or willingness to tolerate something, in particular the existence of opinions or behavior that one does not necessarily agree with.

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