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    Re: Oregon Gov. hopeful links gay marriage with murder

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    They are to vote the values and desires of those who elected them.
    Yup, and they're free to have the laws they voted for thrown out by Federal Courts for being unconstitutional.

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    Re: Oregon Gov. hopeful links gay marriage with murder

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    Yup, and they're free to have the laws they voted for thrown out by Federal Courts for being unconstitutional.
    If they overstep the Constitution their laws should be thrown out. Still, who they are will manifest itself if the things they support.

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    Re: Oregon Gov. hopeful links gay marriage with murder

    Quote Originally Posted by Texmex View Post
    If they overstep the Constitution their laws should be thrown out. Still, who they are will manifest itself if the things they support.
    Okay, I'm not really certain I know what you're arguing anymore.

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    Re: Oregon Gov. hopeful links gay marriage with murder

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    Okay, I'm not really certain I know what you're arguing anymore.
    I feel the same way about what you are saying. I'm not even sure we disagree.

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    Re: Oregon Gov. hopeful links gay marriage with murder

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    I feel the same way about what you are saying. I'm not even sure we disagree.
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    Re: Oregon Gov. hopeful links gay marriage with murder

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    Murder and theft aren't actions condoned by civil societies, religious or not. Playing dumb is one thing, but I think you've overplayed your hand.
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    Re: Oregon Gov. hopeful links gay marriage with murder

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    So we are slaves to your will then? We don't get a vote or an opinion? Our first amendment rights aren't valid?
    No, since when do you get to vote against someone else's rights? Since when do you get to vote in an unconstitutional law? Your first amendment rights don't cover restricting someone else's actions, no matter how much you wish them to.

    Why the slave hyperbole? You arent being forced to marry a dude.
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    Re: Oregon Gov. hopeful links gay marriage with murder

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    No, since when do you get to vote against someone else's rights?
    Why do they get to vote against my rights?

    Since when do you get to vote in an unconstitutional law? Your first amendment rights don't cover restricting someone else's actions, no matter how much you wish them to.
    I am not talking about restricting other people's rights. I even proposed just the opposite. But that doesn't matter does it? Why should christians, Jews, and Muslims be forced to recognize and even facilitate/participate in.

    Why the slave hyperbole? You arent being forced to marry a dude.
    Because he was trying to assert that only his opinion should be allowed to vote.
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