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Both shooting happened at Ft Hood. Both were soldier on soldier. Lopez has a Muslim name...........you do the math.

Lopez is a muslim name? Actually it is hispanic. perhaps Castillian. Old Christian Castillian
 
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Lopez is a muslim name? Actually it is hispanic. perhaps Castillian. Old Christian Castillian

And his first name was evidently "Ivan" - not common, but by no means unheard of amongst hispanics.


Both shooting happened at Ft Hood. Both were soldier on soldier. Lopez has a Muslim name...........you do the math.
What name are you referring to as being Muslim? Did Lopez have an Islamic style "convert name" in addition to his birth name?
 
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And his first name was evidently "Ivan" - not common, but by no means unheard of amongst hispanics.

Navy Pride: What name are you referring to as being Muslim? Did Loez have a convert name in addition to his birth namel?

we missed the middle name

Ivan Muhammed Lopez!!
 
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we missed the middle name

Ivan Muhammed Lopez!!

Thats go to be it... Ivan Muhammed Lopez-Jihad!

Then again it is entirely possible that Lopez flirted with Islam and then started using an Islamic name unofficialy. Taking a new Islamic name is evidently fairly common amongst prison converts. Other non prison convert groups may do it as well.
 
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Lopez is a muslim name? Actually it is hispanic. perhaps Castillian. Old Christian Castillian

According to Behind the Name (one of my favorite for learning origins of name) Lopez means "son of Lope," in Spanish, and Lope is the Spanish form of the latin word Lupus. Looking on wikipedia appears you are right that it originated in Castilla la Vieja.
Old Castile - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
López - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Behind the Name: Meaning, Origin and History of the Surname Lopez
Behind the Name: Meaning, Origin and History of the Name Lope
 
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According to Behind the Name (one of my favorite for learning origins of name) Lopez means "son of Lope," in Spanish, and Lope is the Spanish form of the latin word Lupus. Looking on wikipedia appears you are right that it originated in Castilla la Vieja.
Old Castile - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
López - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Behind the Name: Meaning, Origin and History of the Surname Lopez
Behind the Name: Meaning, Origin and History of the Name Lope

I figured as much-I studied spanish history specifically the idiocy of Isabella and the banishment of the Jews and the persecution of the "New Christians". I was making an educated guess on Lopez based on my studies of 35 years ago
 
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I figured as much-I studied spanish history specifically the idiocy of Isabella and the banishment of the Jews and the persecution of the "New Christians". I was making an educated guess on Lopez based on my studies of 35 years ago

Good call on the origins. Though I speak spanish fluently, I am not familiar with Spanish name origins. I would have guessed that Lopez came from Estremedura or Andaluscia as that name is common with Mexicans and most Spanish settlers to Mexico came from those regions.
 
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I want to apologize for jumping the gun and blaming Obama and his cronies for the shootings at Fort Hood......I will with hold further judgment until all the facts are in....I jumped the gun because I heard the shooter had another name that was Muslim........My prayers go out to the families involved.
 
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I see something like that as an honest mistake Navy. But it has been interesting watching the speculation in the media, on message boards, and various talking heads, etc. I think some were disappointed that the shooter was not an Islamic extremist; others disappointed that it wasn't some wacko skinhead gun nut or some such. At least the media so far has refrained from referring to him as a 'white Hispanic'. But the bottom line for those injured, those still in danger, and those mourning the loss of their comrades and loved ones, it that is was a cruel and senseless act. And I agree that is where our concerns should lie at the moment.
 
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I see something like that as an honest mistake Navy. But it has been interesting watching the speculation in the media, on message boards, and various talking heads, etc. I think some were disappointed that the shooter was not an Islamic extremist; others disappointed that it wasn't some wacko skinhead gun nut or some such. At least the media so far has refrained from referring to him as a 'white Hispanic'. But the bottom line for those injured, those still in danger, and those mourning the loss of their comrades and loved ones, it that is was a cruel and senseless act. And I agree that is where our concerns should lie at the moment.

I am still not sure it was not terrorism...time will tell.
 
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I want to apologize for jumping the gun and blaming Obama and his cronies for the shootings at Fort Hood......I will with hold further judgment until all the facts are in....I jumped the gun because I heard the shooter had another name that was Muslim........My prayers go out to the families involved.

The only one to blame is the selfish punk who shot everyone. I suppose you are going to boycott Taco Bell now.
 
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Another drugged up, mentally unstable guy goes on a rampage. When will anti-gunners realize that its the drugs and mental illness thats the problem here, not the guns...
 
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what is not accurate? tell that to the family members whose husband were murdered.....Can you say Benghazi?

Can you say "Iraq" which is where he acquired his mental damage...very possibly PTSD?
 
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Both shooting happened at Ft Hood. Both were soldier on soldier. Lopez has a Muslim name...........you do the math.

Ivan Lopez is a 'Muslim' name?

How blinded by your own agenda are you?
 
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The Congressional 9/11 Commission Report asked similar questions.

That the Clinton administration said that Al Qaeda was a law enforcement issue not a national security issue and went further to put up a "wall" where the FBI, CIA, ONI, NSA, USBP, INS, USCS, USMS, and state, county and local law enforcement couldn't share information with each other.

But President G.W. Bush didn't spend eight years blaming Clinton's failed counter terrorist policies.

Right, Bush ignored Clinton's counter terrorist policies and the country was attacked. The failure was all Bush.
 
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It's government, they're bad at doing anything efficiently, least of all the military. There's simply no way to stop a 'prohibited person' from buying a gun, even in Canada. The best solution is to empower everyone else.

I don't disagree with your final point, however, I do disagree with your premise that there is simply nothing that can be done to stop such actions. I don't have answers, however.
 
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I see something like that as an honest mistake Navy. But it has been interesting watching the speculation in the media, on message boards, and various talking heads, etc. I think some were disappointed that the shooter was not an Islamic extremist; others disappointed that it wasn't some wacko skinhead gun nut or some such. At least the media so far has refrained from referring to him as a 'white Hispanic'. But the bottom line for those injured, those still in danger, and those mourning the loss of their comrades and loved ones, it that is was a cruel and senseless act. And I agree that is where our concerns should lie at the moment.

I hope some good will come out of this, as just one example, continued and deeper scrutiny of these SSRI drugs.

Lopez was apparently having a difficult time dealing with his mother's sudden death, and he seemed to have thought that the Army had tried to keep him from attending her funeral. And it also seems that he had an argument with another soldier/soldiers before the shooting.

From ABC News:

The soldier who killed three people at Fort Hood may have argued with another service member prior to the attack, and investigators believe his unstable mental health contributed to the rampage, authorities said Thursday.

The base's senior officer, Lt. Gen. Mark Milley, said there is a "strong possibility" that Spc. Ivan Lopez had a "verbal altercation" with another soldier or soldiers immediately before Wednesday's shooting, which unfolded on the same Army post that was the scene of an infamous 2009 mass shooting. Argument May Have Preceded Deadly Fort Hood Attack - ABC News

Fort Hood Shooter Ivan Lopez's Chilling Facebook Post: 'The Devil Will Take Me...Green Light And Finger Ready' | Fox News Latino
 
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I don't disagree with your final point, however, I do disagree with your premise that there is simply nothing that can be done to stop such actions. I don't have answers, however.
What can't be prevented is 100% of any incidents. Even condoms fail. Most employees and residents will comply with the no-gun rule because thats the military culture, but there will always be the radical element who chose to quietly disregard the rules, and thats when prevention fails. At that point you need the ability to "react-to-contact".
 
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How did Lopez get the weapon on base anyway?
 
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How did Lopez get the weapon on base anyway?

You say that like there's anything stopping you from bringing anything on base. There's no TSA search, you just drive up to the guard house, show your ID and then....drive forward....and *poof* your on the base. There's no search. There nothing but an ID check.

There's absolutely nothing stopping anyone from bringing a firearm on base. Nothing. In fact during my pre-deployment a soldier smuggled his wife on base. He smuggled her the next day, too.

Just because you make a no-gun rule doesn't mean there's anything in place to enforce it. There's no magic forcefield just because you made a rule.
 
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Can you say "Iraq" which is where he acquired his mental damage...very possibly PTSD?

Possible, but he was evidently in Iraq for only four months and was not in combat. I have a feeling that this guy would have been a time bomb whether he worked in the shoe department at Macys or was in the army.
 
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Military personnel should be allowed to carry guns when in their bases, if civilians in the state of TX can do it I dont see why men in uniform shouldnt, they are trained to use them more than your ordinary civilian and could have put a stop to his the moment it happened.
 
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Another drugged up, mentally unstable guy goes on a rampage. When will anti-gunners realize that its the drugs and mental illness thats the problem here, not the guns...

its because banning or restricting guns punishes people for politics anti gunners don't like
 
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