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    Re: Justices strike down political donor limits

    Quote Originally Posted by shavingcollywob View Post
    Who pays the most taxes, Cardinal?
    Utterly irrelevant. One man, one vote -- the principle that all citizens are entitled to equal legislative representation. The addition of campaign contributions such that wealthier people are given disproportionate say in the legislation that is created makes a mockery of the principle of one man, one vote. Unless, that is, you specifically believe in a plutocracy, in which case the divide between your beliefs and mine are so great that we would have nothing further to discuss.

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    Re: Justices strike down political donor limits

    Quote Originally Posted by shavingcollywob View Post
    In all seriousness, how can you possibly believe this?

    You're exactly the type of low income voter I'm talking about.
    I am? Wow... good to know. Sorry, I'm feeling kind of smug at the moment.

    I know this because I'm good at math. I'm also educated enough to know that there are other taxes besides Federal Income Tax. Add all of that in and the top 10% pays about 30.5%, the top 1% sits around 29%, and the top 400 families are about 20%.

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    Re: Justices strike down political donor limits

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Justices strike down political donor limits - CNN.com




    File this under "duh", although you can never be quite sure with this Supreme Court.

    The fact that it's 5-4 is astounding. That "four" don't even think you should have to present a valid ID to vote, but they want to tell valid voters what to do with their money.
    GOD CNN SUCKS. They got me as well.

    Supreme Court strikes down cap on campaign contributions | Al Jazeera America

    The Supreme Court didn't strike down the donation limits to individual campaigns; they struck down the overall donation limit. It's not a great thing, but overall, not a big deal.

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    Re: Justices strike down political donor limits

    I predict that this will put a lot of money in a lot of peoples pockets.

    I doubt that it will increase democracy in the USA.

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    Re: Justices strike down political donor limits

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Justices strike down political donor limits - CNN.com




    File this under "duh", although you can never be quite sure with this Supreme Court.

    The fact that it's 5-4 is astounding. That "four" don't even think you should have to present a valid ID to vote, but they want to tell valid voters what to do with their money.
    Yayyy this is so great. Open the floodgates to spending. Let the rich dominate the political process. Show us how much our politicians are worth! Democracy for sale!





    Why people applaud this nonsense is beyond me. Cant you see whats happening? Our leaders, our representatives are literally being bought and sold. They dont represent us. They represent the big donors.


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    Re: Justices strike down political donor limits

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Justices strike down political donor limits - CNN.com




    File this under "duh", although you can never be quite sure with this Supreme Court.

    The fact that it's 5-4 is astounding. That "four" don't even think you should have to present a valid ID to vote, but they want to tell valid voters what to do with their money.
    The individual should be unlimited. Corporations and other non-hunan entities should be banned from political contribution.
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    Re: Justices strike down political donor limits

    That isn't the ruling of the land today.
    Though you are not a DEM, DEMs need to quit whining and deal with the facts on the ground.
    No solace can be taken from McCain's words on campaign financing.
    Invest in the campaign finance industry.

    Corporations are people according to this USSC ruling.
    We all need to deal with it .
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    The individual should be unlimited. Corporations and other non-hunan entities should be banned from political contribution.
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    Re: Justices strike down political donor limits

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    I predict that this will put a lot of money in a lot of peoples pockets.
    I doubt that it will increase democracy in the USA.
    The only words I respect so far from the nine Justices came from C. Thomas.
    At least he was honest in his separate opinion.
    I also agree with Robert's summation about "word games" and no link proven with corruption.

    Too bad it's taken Dems SIX months to run their own very good hit ads in the current hot Senate races, dominated by Koch money .
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    Re: Justices strike down political donor limits

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    As long as they are forced to disclose, i dont have a problem.

    At least we'll know who our politicians belong to.
    There are a lot of sites that track that...

    Campaign Finance - Money, Political Finance, Campaign Contributions

    ^^That is a database of donations. You can use it to find who donates to who in your community (or anywhere).. You can track corporations and such as well.

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    Re: Justices strike down political donor limits

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    Terrible...

    The reason we HAD limits was so that candidates would not be beholden to individuals.

    EG. Sheldon Adelson is a casino mogul. He is strongly against online gambling because it cuts into his profit margins. He's only going to fund candidates who oppose online gambling. Now watch, GOP candidates will move to oppose online gambling.

    Similar things are going to happen with the Democrats.

    It's funny, the so called "originalists" are among the most activist judges in American history.
    The solution isn't to silence the People, the solution is to deal with the crooked politicians. Fix the PROBLEM.
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