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    Re: Justices strike down political donor limits

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    Terrible...

    The reason we HAD limits was so that candidates would not be beholden to individuals.

    EG. Sheldon Adelson is a casino mogul. He is strongly against online gambling because it cuts into his profit margins. He's only going to fund candidates who oppose online gambling. Now watch, GOP candidates will move to oppose online gambling.

    Similar things are going to happen with the Democrats.

    It's funny, the so called "originalists" are among the most activist judges in American history.
    Did the limits ever change anything? NO.
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    Re: Justices strike down political donor limits

    Money is not speech, regardless of what the justices say about it. The limit on political contributions should be zero, the numbers of political ads should be zero, and any candidate should speak for themselves.
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    Re: Justices strike down political donor limits

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    You think flooding the political system with unlimited amounts of money has no effect on legislative outcomes?
    We got Obamacare didn't we?
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    Re: Justices strike down political donor limits

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Individuals are as capable of corrupting the system as PACS and corporations. The differentiation between the two is arbitrary, meaningless at least, because the end result is identical.
    My perspective may not be yours, but for me there are very few politicians who are corrupted by monies donated to their campaigns for election/reelection. It is the far more shady, shadowy transactions that take place outside the limelight - the upgrade to someones home or property, the under the table cash in an envelope trade for favours, the access to corporate travel/vacation spots, etc.

    I couldn't name a single politician who was convicted of breach of trust or other crimes as it relates to campaign donations but I could name plenty who got busted for under the table payoffs, stock information, etc., etc.
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    Re: Justices strike down political donor limits

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    We got Obamacare didn't we?
    Yep.

    Handing over every American on a silver platter to the HMO's because they paid for it.

    Now what you got?

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    Re: Justices strike down political donor limits

    A win fir free speech.
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    Re: Justices strike down political donor limits

    Quote Originally Posted by shavingcollywob View Post
    No one is buying legislation. They're supporting candidates however they choose.
    Because politicians feel no obligation to vote for the legislation desired by their donors.

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    Re: Justices strike down political donor limits

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Money is not speech, regardless of what the justices say about it. The limit on political contributions should be zero, the numbers of political ads should be zero, and any candidate should speak for themselves.
    So an ad for Ford by Ford is not Ford speaking about it's product?
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    Re: Justices strike down political donor limits

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Yep.

    Handing over every American on a silver platter to the HMO's because they paid for it.

    Now what you got?
    Louisiana Purchase, Corn Husker Kickback.......
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    Re: Justices strike down political donor limits

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    And when those people who make more money have greater input because of their money, it becomes more their government than ours.
    Have you looked at tax distribution in this country?

    Politicians don't win elections by raising the most money. They win elections by getting the most votes and right now the biggest asset Democrats have are the low information voters who can be whipped up into a frenzy by the idea that the wealthy are buying the government and not paying their fair share. The wealthy have always had more money to donate than you and that hasn't stopped Democrats from pushing more and more onto the backs of fewer and fewer. The Founding Fathers warned of tyranny of the majority and that's exactly where we find ourselves today.

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