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    Re: Justices strike down political donor limits

    Quote Originally Posted by shavingcollywob View Post
    I'm not assuming anything.

    I'm correctly acknowledging that the Democrat Party has successfully used class warfare as a campaign strategy when it's far more accurate to say the wealthy are getting the short end of the stick in the United States.

    Again, have you looked at tax distribution in this country?
    I'm not sure what you mean by "tax distribution." If you're saying that a lot of wealthy people are Democrats, then you're just pointing out the obvious.
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    Re: Justices strike down political donor limits

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Corporations are property in fact.
    Corporate are built by people, employ people, and serve people. They also pay massive taxes to government. Those taxes are made up of money earned by those people, and as a whole, it deserves a voice in politics.

    Much more, in fact, than the 5th grade dropout who's hooked on heroin that is picked up in a bus and pushes a button in exchange for another hit.

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    Re: Justices strike down political donor limits

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Corporate are built by people, employ people, and serve people. They also pay massive taxes to government. Those taxes are made up of money earned by those people, and as a whole, it deserves a voice in politics.

    Much more, in fact, than the 5th grade dropout who's hooked on heroin that is picked up in a bus and pushes a button in exchange for another hit.
    Wow... That's so American of you. A corporation deserves to have a bigger voice in politics than a poor person?

    I could make a similar case for education. Those who worked hard and earned a PhD deserve to have more of a voice than uneducated people who sit around rooting for a political party like they were the local football team.

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    Re: Justices strike down political donor limits

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Corporate are built by people, employ people, and serve people. They also pay massive taxes to government. Those taxes are made up of money earned by those people, and as a whole, it deserves a voice in politics.

    Much more, in fact, than the 5th grade dropout who's hooked on heroin that is picked up in a bus and pushes a button in exchange for another hit.
    See this is the biggest problem with far right wingers like you.

    You are literally incapable of putting things in proper context.

    The fact that the argument to you is either corporations get to do whatever they want OR Heroine addicts decide the fate of the country is absolutely loony and ignores the reality and balance of this world.

    The wealthy and corporations are disproportionally buying the influence of the American government in their favour, while average folks are being shut out and BOTH PARTIES ARE GUILTY OF THIS and you continue blindly to support this march towards plutocracy.

    The key is balance.

    This doesn't mean that wealthy individuals should be shut out of the political process but the idea that unlimited donations to candidates and parties won't buy favours is ludicrous and ignores reality.

    It's dangerous to a healthy democracy.

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    Re: Justices strike down political donor limits

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    See this is the biggest problem with far right wingers like you.

    You are literally incapable of putting things in proper context.

    The fact that the argument to you is either corporations get to do whatever they want OR Heroine addicts decide the fate of the country is absolutely loony and ignores the reality and balance of this world.

    The wealthy and corporations are disproportionally buying the influence of the American government in their favour, while average folks are being shut out and BOTH PARTIES ARE GUILTY OF THIS and you continue blindly to support this march towards plutocracy.

    The key is balance.

    This doesn't mean that wealthy individuals should be shut out of the political process but the idea that unlimited donations to candidates and parties won't buy favours is ludicrous and ignores reality.

    It's dangerous to a healthy democracy.
    And the biggest problem with lefties like you is that you won't acknowledge that Democrats are VASTLY more bought and paid for than conservatives are. Pelosi and Reid are as dirty as it gets. Chicago is basically run by the mob. Al Gore is damn near a billionaire off of the global warming hoax. And Obama lives and believes totally opposite of the common folks he claims to represent.

    Yet, these are the folks held in the highest of esteem, while productive, well-intentioned corporations are run through the mud as the evil empire.

    Open your eyes.

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    Re: Justices strike down political donor limits

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Corporate are built by people, employ people, and serve people. They also pay massive taxes to government. Those taxes are made up of money earned by those people, and as a whole, it deserves a voice in politics.

    Much more, in fact, than the 5th grade dropout who's hooked on heroin that is picked up in a bus and pushes a button in exchange for another hit.
    The people who make up the corporation are people and should be allowed to invest any amount of their personal money into political contributions that they want. The corporation is property, it has no rights nor representation as it is property. Government is to be for the People, not property. As such corporations should be barred from political donation.
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    Re: Justices strike down political donor limits

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    Wow... That's so American of you. A corporation deserves to have a bigger voice in politics than a poor person?

    I could make a similar case for education. Those who worked hard and earned a PhD deserve to have more of a voice than uneducated people who sit around rooting for a political party like they were the local football team.
    I didn't say a bigger voice. You did.

    You just want them to have no voice because that's what you do. You look for every means possible to limit the authority of those that contribute the most and succeed. It's one massive Robin Hood scheme driven by a party-drunk inferiority complex.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    The people who make up the corporation are people and should be allowed to invest any amount of their personal money into political contributions that they want. The corporation is property, it has no rights nor representation as it is property. Government is to be for the People, not property. As such corporations should be barred from political donation.
    If it pays taxes, it should be represented. If corporations aren't allowed political donations, then they shouldn't be taxed.

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    Re: Justices strike down political donor limits

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    If it pays taxes, it should be represented. If corporations aren't allowed political donations, then they shouldn't be taxed.
    Corporations are not actually human, not human should not be represented in a government made for The People. There's no "taxation without representation", since property shouldn't be represented in government. The CEOs have right to representation and they should be allowed to spend any amount of their money on political donation. The corporation not so much. There's no philosophical basis for property itself possessing rights.
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    Re: Justices strike down political donor limits

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Corporations are not actually human, not human should not be represented in a government made for The People. There's no "taxation without representation", since property shouldn't be represented in government. The CEOs have right to representation and they should be allowed to spend any amount of their money on political donation. The corporation not so much. There's no philosophical basis for property itself possessing rights.
    So why not just tax the CEO and his employees? Why does the corporation get taxed?

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