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    Re: GM's Barra apologizes to families

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    OMG!!!!

    'Hand the CEO position over to a woman. We're in deep ****."
    Ain't THAT the damn truth, you guys are outta there!!!!
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    Re: GM's Barra apologizes to families

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
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    You?!? No!

    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: GM's Barra apologizes to families

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Politics aside I really can't believe how GM put business ahead of lives for so long. I am sorry we bailed them out.
    I agree with this. I'm all for making money, but c'mon.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: GM's Barra apologizes to families

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    Please yourself. There were reviews of the situation in both 2007 and 2010--anything before that doesn't mitigate what happened then. It is a clear conflict of interest to have the umpire with a vested interest in the game.

    Or do you believe that the entire situation was known in 2001 and nothing knew was added to the base of knowledge about the situation after that?
    Here...

    GM thought it had fixed the ignition-switch defect, the carmaker said in a supplemental report filed with the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration today. Then in 2003, service technicians found that an owner with a heavy key ring was experiencing engine stalls while driving. The flaw, linked to 12 deaths, led to the recall last month of 1.6 million cars.
    GM Now Says Ignition-Switch Troubles Date Back to 2001 - Bloomberg

    The Corvair, 1961 to 1969 was only deemed an unsafe vehicle 3 years after production stopped. (Ralph Nader)

    Automaker recalls are usually slow, sometimes unusually and painfully slow. Toyota recently paid $1.2 Billion for a settlement after the Government became involved.

    Sometimes, people will die in crashes before eyebrows are raised, and our government and automakers sit up and take notice.
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    Re: GM's Barra apologizes to families

    Timeline: A History Of GM's Ignition Switch Defect : NPR



    Here's a pic so everyone knows what we're talking about. The new CEO is also an electrical engineer, not bad. A hell of a way to begin one's time as CEO, maybe she's the right person though. We'll see.
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    Re: GM's Barra apologizes to families

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    Two steps forward, one step back.

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    Re: GM's Barra apologizes to families

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    Here...



    GM Now Says Ignition-Switch Troubles Date Back to 2001 - Bloomberg

    The Corvair, 1961 to 1969 was only deemed an unsafe vehicle 3 years after production stopped. (Ralph Nader)

    Automaker recalls are usually slow, sometimes unusually and painfully slow. Toyota recently paid $1.2 Billion for a settlement after the Government became involved.
    I don't absolve GM, but when the government came involved and then subsequently became a major shareholder and yet nothing happened, yes I can blame the umpire for a conflict of interest.

    Automaker voluntary recalls can be slow, but not always. Government can also mandate a recall. Again, you haven't refuted my point about conflict of interest by Government.

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    Re: GM's Barra apologizes to families

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    I don't absolve GM, but when the government came involved and then subsequently became a major shareholder and yet nothing happened, yes I can blame the umpire for a conflict of interest.

    Automaker voluntary recalls can be slow, but not always. Government can also mandate a recall. Again, you haven't refuted my point about conflict of interest by Government.
    And you have not proven there's a conflict of interest either. Just, well, an assumption.

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    Re: GM's Barra apologizes to families

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    And you have not proven there's a conflict of interest either. Just, well, an assumption.
    An entity both has oversight over a company and owns a good chunk of the company and you still want to see evidence of a conflict of interest. If you don't deny that government has regulatory oversight and if you don't deny that government owned a good portion of GM, then I can't help you. If you don't agree with those two conditions, I can't you with that either.

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