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    Re: Obamacare enrollment hits 7 million

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Only BEA.gov, BLS.gov, and Treasury data which of course isn't anything. How about having your wife respond to what it is like getting less in your paycheck because of higher taxes and how that impacts your purchasing history?
    No, it isn't. You misread that data. I've spent some time over the last couple of years showing you that.


    According to a new According to a new study by the Congressional Research Service (non-partisan), there's no evidence that tax cuts spur growth.


    Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/study...#ixzz2yj3GRLuh

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    Re: Obamacare enrollment hits 7 million

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I believe they say that, which is not equal to that being the reason. As
    most get out of paying taxers, and I did link that, it's highly unlikely that would be a real issue. Wages and healthcare are much more likely to be reasons.
    People AND Business leave to escape punitive taxation and regulation.

    Just look at the exodus out of California and into states like Texas.

    To contradict your opinion even further, NY is now promising business that if they move to NY they can get a 10 year tax reprive.

    Tax increases are highly destructive to our economy.

    Even Clinton lowered Capital Gains taxes.

    Obama just increased them along with taxes on dividends. He's a total moron.

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    Re: Obamacare enrollment hits 7 million

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No, it isn't. You misread that data. I've spent some time over the last couple of years showing you that.


    According to a new According to a new study by the Congressional Research Service (non-partisan), there's no evidence that tax cuts spur growth.


    Read more: STUDY: Tax Cuts Don't Lead To Growth - Business Insider
    Lol !!

    No evidence ???

    There's plenty of evidence. Its called the State of Texas !

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    Re: Obamacare enrollment hits 7 million

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    People AND Business leave to escape punitive taxation and regulation.

    Just look at the exodus out of California and into states like Texas.

    To contradict your opinion even further, NY is now promising business that if they move to NY they can get a 10 year tax reprive.

    Tax increases are highly destructive to our economy.

    Even Clinton lowered Capital Gains taxes.

    Obama just increased them along with taxes on dividends. He's a total moron.
    While I get a laugh at the hyperbolic use of the word punitive, your just ranting. Again, the issue is does taxes create jobs or economic growth? I've given plenty if evidence they don't.


    The conventional wisdom on corporate taxes is that the lower they are, the more companies can invest and stimulate the economy. That’s not how it worked in 2012. Among the 34 countries in the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development, the average corporate tax rate had little bearing on economic growth.

    Correlations: High Corporate Taxes, Economic Growth Can Coexist - Businessweek

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    Re: Obamacare enrollment hits 7 million

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Lol !!

    No evidence ???

    There's plenty of evidence. Its called the State of Texas !
    Texas was covered earlier, and cheap labor us the overriding factor there. Not taxes. But go back and look at the link.

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    Re: Obamacare enrollment hits 7 million

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Texas was covered earlier, and cheap labor us the overriding factor there. Not taxes. But go back and look at the link.
    "Covered" by you posting some irrelevant left wing drek that purposely ignores Texas per capita GDP being HIGHER than Californias for the last 4 years running.

    With Californias per capita GDP being revised downward in 2011.

    Texas's per capita income in 2011 was 4.6 percent HIGHER than Californias and its gotten worse for the left coast since then.

    When you take into account California's higher cost of Living, Texans average annual income ( 47,000 ) is 6 thousand dollars higher than Californias. ( 41,000 )

    Honestly, all the left has to defend itself these days are lies and misinformation.

    I mean you're trying to convince us that both Corporations AND people ( 2 Million Californians ) pick up and move to Texas for "cheap labor " ???

    Lol !!!

    You need to pinch and remind yourself your'e NOT debating other Obama Supporters.

    Conservatives dont buy into left wing mitigations and desperate excuses.

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    Re: Obamacare enrollment hits 7 million

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Texas was covered earlier, and cheap labor us the overriding factor there. Not taxes. But go back and look at the link.
    Yep, people are moving to Texas in droves to escape better pay; not to avoid higher taxes and cost of living.

    Would your rather earn $47K/year and pay $1K/month for housing or make $41K/year and pay $2K/month for housing?
    “The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one persists to adapt the world to himself.
    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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    Re: Obamacare enrollment hits 7 million

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Yep, people are moving to Texas in droves
    to escape better pay; not to avoid higher taxes and cost of living.

    Would your rather earn $47K/year and pay $1K/month for housing or make $41K/year and pay $2K/month for housing?
    His arguments are ridiculous.

    Highly dishonest

    I guess NY should just shut down their " Start Up NY " campaign, because lower taxes doesn't equate to growing economies.

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    Re: Obamacare enrollment hits 7 million

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No, it isn't. You misread that data. I've spent some time over the last couple of years showing you that.


    According to a new According to a new study by the Congressional Research Service (non-partisan), there's no evidence that tax cuts spur growth.


    Read more: STUDY: Tax Cuts Don't Lead To Growth - Business Insider
    You don't seem to get it, the data you show doesn't trump the reality of what drives a consumer driven economy and it isn't govt. spending, it is consumer spending their own money which when there is a tax cut there is more of it. That creates the atmosphere for economic growth, something you don't seem to understand. ask your wife how she feels about more spendable income?

    Didn't get a response from you on who made the quote I posted and you ignored?

    Every dollar released from taxation that is spared or invested will help create a new job and a new salary.”
    Last edited by Conservative; 04-12-14 at 11:33 PM.

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    Re: Obamacare enrollment hits 7 million

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    "Covered" by you posting some irrelevant left wing drek that purposely ignores Texas per capita GDP being HIGHER than Californias for the last 4 years running.

    With Californias per capita GDP being revised downward in 2011.

    Texas's per capita income in 2011 was 4.6 percent HIGHER than Californias and its gotten worse for the left coast since then.

    When you take into account California's higher cost of Living, Texans average annual income ( 47,000 ) is 6 thousand dollars higher than Californias. ( 41,000 )

    Honestly, all the left has to defend itself these days are lies and misinformation.

    I mean you're trying to convince us that both Corporations AND people ( 2 Million Californians ) pick up and move to Texas for "cheap labor " ???

    Lol !!!

    You need to pinch and remind yourself your'e NOT debating other Obama Supporters.

    Conservatives dont buy into left wing mitigations and desperate excuses.
    you out haven't look closely at what I've used. I've used articles from conservative sources, government sources, and peer reviewed studies.

    And you guys have used . . . . . . . That's right, nothing.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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