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    Re: Obamacare enrollment hits 7 million

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I didn't. We did as a country through elected representatives. And reaffirmed by their continued election. Are you saying you prefer another form of government than ours?
    Yes, we hold elections and the "People's House" remains under control of the Republicans and is representative of the opinions of the people. The Founders understood where the power should reside, you don't

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    Re: Obamacare enrollment hits 7 million

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Funny how companies paid a living wage and made healthy profits for decades. How much is enough? Companies like Costco show that your rhetoric once again rings shallow.
    One must look at the bigger picture here. Are you proposing that all retailers adopt the Costco model by keeping products on pallets, selling only in case lots and charging high membership fees just to make fewer employees (less total jobs) get higher pay and yielding less than a 2% net profit margin?
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    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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    Re: Obamacare enrollment hits 7 million

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    So you don't think companies pay taxes on their employees? Taxes and regulations are a major part of business decision making and their financial statement. Interesting how you don't understand that reality
    Keep trying to move that goal posts.

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    Re: Obamacare enrollment hits 7 million

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Yes, we hold elections and the "People's House" remains under control of the Republicans and is representative of the opinions of the people. The Founders understood where the power should reside, you don't
    Congress wrote and passed these laws. Sorry you didn't know that.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Obamacare enrollment hits 7 million

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Tell me what those large companies making those record profits pay their employees? Do you understand the reason people go into business? You think it is to employ people like you? Wow. Why would anyone invest more money in employees with the uncertainty as to the cost of ACA and possibility of higher taxes from this incompetent Administration? Would you invest your money into increasing employment with this uncertainty?
    It's tough to have these discussions in abstract terms because we don't know which companies we're talking about specifically, and also don't know if People like disneydude are referring to gross profit, net income or EBITDA or their margins when they say "record profits".

    Also, ACA isn't that costly to employees, and Obama has been historic in his lowering of taxes.
    "I do not claim that every incident in the history of empire can be explained in directly economic terms. Economic interests are filtered through a political process, policies are implemented by a complex state apparatus, and the whole system generates its own momentum."

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    Re: Obamacare enrollment hits 7 million

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Keep trying to move that goal posts.
    Keep dodging the questions and ignoring the costs of hiring, training, and employing people

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    Re: Obamacare enrollment hits 7 million

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Congress wrote and passed these laws. Sorry you didn't know that.
    ACA passed without one single Republican vote, sorry you didn't know that and the majority in the country represented by the "People's House" don't like ACA

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    Re: Obamacare enrollment hits 7 million

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    It's tough to have these discussions in abstract terms because we don't know which companies we're talking about specifically, and also don't know if People like disneydude are referring to gross profit, net income or EBITDA or their margins when they say "record profits".

    Also, ACA isn't that costly to employees, and Obama has been historic in his lowering of taxes.
    How much less are you paying in taxes because of Obama? Apparently the 5 million who got cancellation notices and many who have gone to the ACA site disagree with you. Obama is making Jimmy Carter look good.

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    Re: Obamacare enrollment hits 7 million

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Yes, that is what is being announced. It seems that the GOP hope for demise of the ACA has failed miserably. I am not surprised. There is a precedent for them to be on the losing side and it seems to be pickling up steam...like the ACA



    Carney: Obamacare enrollment hits 7 million - CNN.com
    Notice that they say nothing about how many of those seven million lost their insurance because of ACA and had to sign up.

    It also makes no mention of the people who lost their jobs due to ACA. Or how everyone now has higher premiums.

    It is also very strange how the ACA is painted as a success when 7 million enrollees makes it an absolute failure by definition. The ACA was sold as a means of helping the 50 million people who we were told were uninsured. 50 million minus 7 million leaves 43 million still uninsured which is not even half which is an absolute irrefutable failure.

    Yes the GOP is on the losing side but only because they opposed this inasnity while trying to propose equally bad solutions of their own rather than calling the ACA what it truly is: a monstrous law.

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    Re: Obamacare enrollment hits 7 million

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Keep dodging the questions and ignoring the costs of hiring, training, and employing people
    Those are not on point to our discussion. You're trying to sneak away from the fact business don't leave due to taxes.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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