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    Re: Obamacare enrollment hits 7 million

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Maybe, but they could be two separate numbers.
    Well, if it IS a separate number then that is also bad, quite frankly. If 3.5 million people are new to the private insurance rolls out of 5.6 paying customers that means only 2.1 million of the 4.7+ million who lost their insurance were able to acquire insurance for 2014... which means that 2.6 million people lost their insurance for 2014 because of the law.

    So instead of a 500,000 net gain in my initial reading it would be a 900,000 net gain but 2.6 million adversely affected by the bill versus zero in my initial assumption.

    I think that is worse than my first assumption!
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    Re: Obamacare enrollment hits 7 million

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I've done that many times before. But I think you'll love these three:

    3.) Educating everybody. Our economy and democracy would be impossible without an educated, skilled populace. From the beginning of our nation, offering free and universal public education has been one of the most important functions of government. The federal government has always had a role, from the 1785 Land Act and the land-grant colleges established under Lincoln to the GI Bill and beyond. Its no accident that America leads the world in technological innovation.

    4.) Helping us retire with dignity. Social Security and Medicare keep millions of Americans out of poverty, allowing them to live out their lives in dignity. And these essential programs are provided by government at far less cost than would be possible from the private sector.

    5) Improving public health. Many of us owe our lives literally to the government. The greatest advances in longevity are due to public-sanitation measures such as water treatment, sewer systems and trash disposal. The Food and Drug Administration, the Environmental Protection Agency, and thousands of federal, state and local agencies keep us safer and healthier than wed be in their absence. In addition, public dollars fund most of the basic research that private companies turn into life-saving drugs.

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    Just goes to show how poorly you are informed. Most of the funding for schools comes from the state and local communities, not the Federal Govt. That is where healthcare belongs, in the states. Most of the funding for state infrastructure programs come from the state and local communities. You simply don't understand what your taxes fund and how much you will get from those Federal entitlement dollars you spend.

    Retiring with Dignity? LOL, wait until you see how much money you get when you retire with most receiving benefits that put them well below the poverty level.

    Improving healthcare? Do you get to keep your doctor and healthcare plan if you want to? I lost my doctor when I became eligible for Medicare which I was forced to contribute to my entire working career.

    Boo, you just continue to show how easily you are swayed by feel good rhetoric and rather than do your own research you buy what you are told. There is nothing that the govt. does prudently and efficiently and even with a 17.3 trillion dollar debt you continue to buy the liberal rhetoric.

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    Re: Obamacare enrollment hits 7 million

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    But...but...but Gooberment bad...
    You people are amazing, 17.3 trillion in debt, trillions of unfunded mandates in SS and Medicare, millions and millions uninsured on a program that has rising costs and still pile on bigger and more govt? Wow, guess it doesn't matter as long as someone else is paying

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    Re: Obamacare enrollment hits 7 million

    You people?
    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    You people are amazing, 17.3 trillion in debt, trillions of unfunded mandates in SS and Medicare, millions and millions uninsured on a program that has rising costs and still pile on bigger and more govt? Wow, guess it doesn't matter as long as someone else is paying
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    Re: Obamacare enrollment hits 7 million

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    You people?
    Anyone that says that ACA enrollment/govt. program and the unemployment numbers are good because there were 7.1 million reportedly insured and 192,000 jobs created. both continue to show how disastrous the Obama economic policies are

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    Re: Obamacare enrollment hits 7 million

    I dont care even a whit about ACA, I just hope it is the first step to UHC.
    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Anyone that says that ACA enrollment/govt. program and the unemployment numbers are good because there were 7.1 million reportedly insured and 192,000 jobs created. both continue to show how disastrous the Obama economic policies are
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    Re: Obamacare enrollment hits 7 million

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    I dont care even a whit about ACA, I just hope it is the first step to UHC.
    Of course you do because Medicare is such a rousing success, high costs, high debt, and poor coverage. Doesn't matter, does it because people can go to the doctors that accept Medicare even if not their own. Trillions in unfunded mandates and yet you still support UHC? Wow

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    Re: Obamacare enrollment hits 7 million

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Just goes to show how poorly you are informed. Most of the funding for schools comes from the state and local communities, not the Federal Govt. That is where healthcare belongs, in the states. Most of the funding for state infrastructure programs come from the state and local communities. You simply don't understand what your taxes fund and how much you will get from those Federal entitlement dollars you spend.

    Retiring with Dignity? LOL, wait until you see how much money you get when you retire with most receiving benefits that put them well below the poverty level.

    Improving healthcare? Do you get to keep your doctor and healthcare plan if you want to? I lost my doctor when I became eligible for Medicare which I was forced to contribute to my entire working career.

    Boo, you just continue to show how easily you are swayed by feel good rhetoric and rather than do your own research you buy what you are told. There is nothing that the govt. does prudently and efficiently and even with a 17.3 trillion dollar debt you continue to buy the liberal rhetoric.
    17 trillion in paper currency or millions of lives protected from sickness. Given the choice I would choose the latter over the former.
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    Re: Obamacare enrollment hits 7 million

    I know, our old system was such a sucess. By far the most expensive and getting more so every year, and yet offered medicore results. Then there is the literal world of evidence demonstrating the superiority of UHC but, ready for it...gooberment bad. Yea, I know.
    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Of course you do because Medicare is such a rousing success, high costs, high debt, and poor coverage. Doesn't matter, does it because people can go to the doctors that accept Medicare even if not their own. Trillions in unfunded mandates and yet you still support UHC? Wow
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    Re: Obamacare enrollment hits 7 million

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    17 trillion in paper currency or millions of lives protected from sickness. Given the choice I would choose the latter over the former.
    given the failure of Medicare to be efficient and bureaucrats not prudent with our money this is a failure of epic proportion. Cannot wait until some of you people who are so bullish on govt. run programs to be eligible for the programs you now tout. I turned 65 and was forced onto Medicare and lost my doctor and my hospital plus the deductibles were much, much higher than my insurance. You people buy what you are told and never verify what you are told thus thinking only with your hearts. Too bad, the trillions in debt have to be paid for and that UHC is one step closer to socialism and attempts at full redistributing wealth.

    Oh, by the way the 250 billion a year being spent on debt service isn't paper, it is money that could have been spent actually helping people

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