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    Re: Obamacare enrollment hits 7 million

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Lets pretend the figure given by the whitehouse is correct. Thats 2% of the population, and of those only a small fraction didn't have coverage before.

    2% is not a "damn huge number", especially after a unilateral democrat party mandate.
    In October Jay Carney said that 6 million people was a "small sliver" of the population. 7 million people would have to also be considered a small sliver - a small number.

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    Re: Obamacare enrollment hits 7 million

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    It seems that first year of Obamacare has reduced the number of uninsured by more than 20%.... I would say that isn't bad, especially given all those that were working to ensure failure by denying the expansion of medicaid or not having state specific websites. Despite the best efforts to the Cons to undermine the law of the land, the Cons, in their typical inept fashion, have failed to kill the law..... if they were smart (which they are not), they would focus on fixing the law, as their continued efforts to sabotage it will backfire on them.....

    Obamacare has led to health coverage for millions more people - latimes.com
    No, it hasn't. It's shifted people from one insurance carrier to another, and much of the rest still hasn't paid.

    Interesting how nobody can tell us just who' paid and who hasn't. Quite convenient.

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    Re: Obamacare enrollment hits 7 million

    Quote Originally Posted by darkrecess View Post
    I feel like I should also point out that the 7 million enrolled in the exchanges does not include as many as 2 million more who became covered under the medicaid expansion. And that number would be higher had 20+ states not rejected the increased medicaid funding.

    I also feel like I should point out that there is a difference between losing insurance and losing coverage. While some of those enrollments may very well be from people who are replacing outdated insurance policies, I am heartened when I see that some 64% of exchange enrollees are aged 18-55, ages where you generally expect to see the least amount of health concerns popping up (as a general trend, compared to the whole population). With that in mind and the fact that millions more have other private insurance or are covered through medicaid/medicare and its derivatives, the health market just got a lot healthier.
    Except many of these particular 18-55 folks have serious immediate need. And again, we still have no idea how many are actually paying. Signing up on a website means almost nothing.

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    Re: Obamacare enrollment hits 7 million

    Quote Originally Posted by darkrecess View Post
    I feel like I should also point out that the 7 million enrolled in the exchanges does not include as many as 2 million more who became covered under the medicaid expansion.
    Actually, the # is 4.7 million
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    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Obamacare enrollment hits 7 million

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    In October Jay Carney said that 6 million people was a "small sliver" of the population. 7 million people would have to also be considered a small sliver - a small number.
    The # is more than 17 million.

    With an approx population of 320 million that means that 5% of the population received coverage through the ACA. That would make it the largest single expansion of insurance coverage in generations.

    As Biden said, it's a BFD
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Obamacare enrollment hits 7 million

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    If that's the way it works out, sure, and who could blame them? If it doesn't work out that way, they'll vote for the other side in ever increasing numbers, for a great long time.

    If it doesn't, anything that would increase costs to health insurance would then have to come from the already over strained general fund (buried and obscured), just to ensure the Democrats political survival. That'll require an equally unpopular action: raising taxes even higher.

    Democrats now 'own' US healthcare. Any dissatisfaction with any part off the insurance side or any part of the medical treatment side is going land in the Democrat's lap, rightly or wrongly. Part of the function of managing healthcare is that you inevitably are going to have to deny coverage of somethings to some people, it's unreasonable to believe that everything can be covered fro everyone. Witness the UK NHS, short on money, they are now not covering some procedures that they used to, and the people don't like. Why should they? Government takes their money and delivers less of poorer quality. What's to like? Likely same will occur here after a number of years.

    It's one hell of a bet to make with the future of your entire party, that government can actually deliver a satisfactory, one size fits all solution for everyone. Not a bet that I'd have made.
    Yes Democrats own HC reform just like they own Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and the civil rights act. Republicans own the Iraq war, tax cuts for the rich and corporate welfare. Are you beginning to see why the GOP does not have a prayer at winning national elections? That they can kiss the Whitehouse goodbye for another generation? Until the Reps go back to acting like Democrat "light" they are toast.

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    Re: Obamacare enrollment hits 7 million

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Yes Democrats own HC reform just like they own Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and the civil rights act.
    Historical revisionism at work here again? (Civil Rights related).



    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Republicans own the Iraq war
    Inaccurate, the Iraq war was voted on in congress with bi-partisan support.

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    tax cuts for the rich and corporate welfare
    Specifically which tax cuts? The Bush tax cuts were also bi-partisan supported, if I reacall.

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Are you beginning to see why the GOP does not have a prayer at winning national elections? That they can kiss the Whitehouse goodbye for another generation? Until the Reps go back to acting like Democrat "light" they are toast.
    Sorry, I don't think so. But then, the future is not yet written. Even Nate Silver give the Republicans a 60% chance of taking the Senate in 2014 midterms.

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    Re: Obamacare enrollment hits 7 million

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Historical revisionism at work here again? (Civil Rights related).





    Inaccurate, the Iraq war was voted on in congress with bi-partisan support.



    Specifically which tax cuts? The Bush tax cuts were also bi-partisan supported, if I reacall.



    Sorry, I don't think so. But then, the future is not yet written. Even Nate Silver give the Republicans a 60% chance of taking the Senate in 2014 midterms.
    Nate's predictions were premature, Dems will hold the Senate and take the House and the Whitehouse again in 2016. Count on it.

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    Re: Obamacare enrollment hits 7 million

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Nate's predictions were premature, Dems will hold the Senate and take the House and the Whitehouse again in 2016. Count on it.
    I'm withholding my prognostication and will only add that the voting and counting hasn't been done yet.

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    Re: Obamacare enrollment hits 7 million

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    The # is more than 17 million.

    With an approx population of 320 million that means that 5% of the population received coverage through the ACA. That would make it the largest single expansion of insurance coverage in generations.

    As Biden said, it's a BFD
    I'm talking about the number Obama spoke about in the Rose Garden yesterday. 7.1 million. You can Google it and get the clips.

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