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    Supreme Court keeps guns away from those guilty of domestic violence

    I wonder what our staunch 2nd Amendment advocates will have to say about this decision. Please note that it was a 9-0 ruling.

    Supreme Court keeps guns away from those guilty of domestic violence

    WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court on Wednesday strengthened a federal law that bars anyone convicted of domestic violence from possessing a gun.

    In a 9-0 decision, the high court said the ban extended to anyone who had pleaded guilty to at least a misdemeanor charge of domestic violence, even in cases in which there was no proof of violent acts or physical injury.

    The ruling overturns decisions in several regions, including the U.S. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals in California, which had said the ban applied only to convictions that involved a "violent use of force."
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    Re: Supreme Court keeps guns away from those guilty of domestic violence

    Well that's good.
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    Re: Supreme Court keeps guns away from those guilty of domestic violence

    Considering most crimes committed with legal firearms are so called passion crimes such as domestic violence I would say it's at least sensible. Whether it will stop deaths from domestic violence only time will tell.
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    Re: Supreme Court keeps guns away from those guilty of domestic violence

    “And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”
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    Re: Supreme Court keeps guns away from those guilty of domestic violence

    I'm okay with this.
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    Re: Supreme Court keeps guns away from those guilty of domestic violence

    The decision is pretty involved.

    I haven't read it all but it seems that they focused on the definition of 'physical force' with regard to domestic violence. The upshot is that if you spank your 2 year old and someone complains you're up for 'domestic violence' and if convicted will be a 'prohibited person'.

    I think that the decision GREATLY expands the definition of physical force as applied to domestic violence and does so unnecessarily.

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    Re: Supreme Court keeps guns away from those guilty of domestic violence

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    I wonder what our staunch 2nd Amendment advocates will have to say about this decision. Please note that it was a 9-0 ruling.
    It's hard to say because it's very easy for people to get accused of domestic abuse these days with little corroborating evidence. However, in general I have always held the position that once one has completed punishment, including probation, successfully; the full of their rights should be recognized.
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    Re: Supreme Court keeps guns away from those guilty of domestic violence

    Is this retroactive?
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    Re: Supreme Court keeps guns away from those guilty of domestic violence

    This will simply alter how the domestic abuse cases play out in the court system. Anyone who values the 2nd Amendment rights now has ABSOLUTELY NO advantage to accepting a plea deal on this charge, so that now puts the burden on the DA to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that physical abuse did take place as alleged or the DA will agree to offering a plea on a charge which doesn't invoke this SC precedent, maybe something like trespassing.

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    Re: Supreme Court keeps guns away from those guilty of domestic violence

    I don't really agree with this because like others have pointed out, DV isn't always as simple as this person hit their loved one. It isn't right to deny someone gun ownership just because of one incident that could honestly not be like the others. It should not be automatic nor should it be "forever" for all DV convictions, particularly not misdemeanors.
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