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Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263:617]

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What is exactly wrong with you people, these numbers are terrible and we needed to destroy the medical system in this country to get 6 million people insured?

The # is actually > 16 million

You didn't do too badly, though. You only left off one digit.
 
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The # is actually > 16 million

You didn't do too badly, though. You only left off one digit.

When ACA was passed there were a reported 45 million uninsured and the goal was to insure a majority of those . 6 million many of whom were insured before and lost their insurance means that even when Obamacare is fully implemented there will still be over 30 million uninsured. We destroyed a good medical system to have over 30 million uninsured? This is a success to people like you? We also know that it is going to cost a couple trillion dollars over 10 years which amounts to the debt service we pay a year. This is a disaster and why so many Democrats are running from Obamacare
 
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When ACA was passed there were a reported 45 million uninsured and the goal was to insure a majority of those . 6 million many of whom were insured before and lost their insurance means that even when Obamacare is fully implemented there will still be over 30 million uninsured. We destroyed a good medical system to have over 30 million uninsured? This is a success to people like you? We also know that it is going to cost a couple trillion dollars over 10 years which amounts to the debt service we pay a year. This is a disaster and why so many Democrats are running from Obamacare

Your #'s are all wrong
 
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Your #'s are all wrong

No, your support is wrong, there is no justification for taking a victory lap over numbers first that you don't understand or know what makes up those numbers and second that leave millions and millions of uninsured which generates another lie told by Obama. Why such low standards for liberalism?
 
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No, your support is wrong, there is no justification for taking a victory lap over numbers first that you don't understand or know what makes up those numbers and second that leave millions and millions of uninsured which generates another lie told by Obama. Why such low standards for liberalism?

Here is what "your" President said about the healthcare situation before the bill was passed. Amazing how you have such a short memory on issues like this

The Affordable Care Act Helps America

And once again, when caught posting made up #'s, Con goes on to rant about multiple issues that have nothing to do with the post he's responding to in a pitiful attempt to distract from his dishonest claims.

Here's the #'s. Read 'em and weep

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16.5 million
 
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Gee, you seemed to believe them when you repeatedly said only 1.4 million had paid

Funny how you change your opinion when it's convenient for you to do so

You told me to read the chart so I did. They're your numbers - you posted them, so own it.
 
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You told me to read the chart so I did. They're your numbers - you posted them, so own it.

The fact remains that you were happy to claim the #'s were true when you thought they said that only 1.4 million had paid. Now that you were schooled about how you misread the #'s, you changed your tune to the #'s are wrong.
 
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And once again, when caught posting made up #'s, Con goes on to rant about multiple issues that have nothing to do with the post he's responding to in a pitiful attempt to distract from his dishonest claims.

Here's the #'s. Read 'em and weep

aca_chart_140328a.jpg


16.5 million

Then Whitehouse.gov is wrong again as usual. Take up the issue with them. It is absolutely amazing how you defend the indefensible. What is it about liberalism that creates people like you?
 
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The fact remains that you were happy to claim the #'s were true when you thought
they said that only 1.4 million had paid. Now that you were schooled about how you misread the #'s, you changed your tune to the #'s are wrong.

Then why hasn't the Obama administration Capitalized politically on "paid sign ups " as opposed to just sign ups.

Why are Democrats, who're up for election this year still running away from this law ?

Not even MSNBC is devoting much time or energy to this supposed "accomplishment".

Is it because these Politicians realize that after 5 years your average American just doesn't trust the President ?

Or trust the legitimacy of ANY data released by this White House.

And lets say all those who go to the exchanges DO pay. A Obama Supporter would think that was good news.

But in reality it's terrible news. People's premiums are going up, WAY UP. For a economy thats already anemic thats a death sentence.

Because now those Americans have even less discretionnary income to keep the economy moving.

ObamaCare did exactly what most left wing created policies do when they're turned into law and imposed upon the citizenry.

It didnt affect the rich or the poor. It targeted the middle class by removing more of their disposable income.
 
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As hard up as GOPs are for a negative story on ACA.
Over and over and over.
I'm catching on to rightie speak

Someone earlier accused you of third-grade antics; they were optimistic.
 
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?.... People's premiums are going up, WAY UP. .....

People's premiums have been going WAY UP for years.

Maybe you didn't notice it because companies use to pay for their employees insurance.

Now in the last 10 years more and more companies are asking their employees to share the cost of their insurance.

Since my husband and his brothers have owned a small business for the last 40 years I know insurance costs were Skyrocketing before President Obama took office. They have been skyrocketing for decades. This has not happened just in the last 10 years.
Heath care costs need to be reigned in.
 
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People's premiums have been going WAY UP for years.

Maybe you didn't notice it because companies use to pay for their employees insurance.

Now in the last 10 years more and more companies are asking their employees to share the cost of their insurance.

Since my husband and his brothers have owned a small business for the last 40 years I know insurance costs were Skyrocketing before President Obama took office. They have been skyrocketing for decades. This has not happened just in the last 10 years.
Heath care costs need to be reigned in.


You're right Minnie...Costs have been out of control, and now you progressives have given that industry a blank check to ramp it up....Congrats.
 
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The fact remains that you were happy to claim the #'s were true when you thought they said that only 1.4 million had paid. Now that you were schooled about how you misread the #'s, you changed your tune to the #'s are wrong.

The fact remains their your numbers - so own it. I didn't misread anything. Get better numbers.
 
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You're right Minnie...Costs have been out of control, and now you progressives have given that industry a blank check to ramp it up....Congrats.

I disagree.

The ACA is requiring that medical records become computerized so tests are not repeated.

In Lee County Florida all the doctors can access a patients files with the patients approval.

Any X-ray cat scan MRI blood tests etc that a person has at any hospital, clinic or Dr. Office in Lee county can be accessed by the patient or any of the patients doctor so all know what tests have given , that way duplicate tests are not repeated. If the patient is on vacation in another state and becomes ill the on call doctor can access the Lee county medical records for that patient.

Once all patients records are computerized the savings on non duplicated tests alone will be enormous.
 
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I disagree.

The ACA is requiring that medical records become computerized so tests are not repeated.

In Lee County Florida all the doctors can access a patients files with the patients approval.

Any X-ray cat scan MRI blood tests etc that a person has at any hospital, clinic or Dr. Office in Lee county can be accessed by the patient or any of the patients doctor so all know what tests have given , that way duplicate tests are not repeated. If the patient is on vacation in another state and becomes ill the on call doctor can access the Lee county medical records for that patient.

Once all patients records are computerized the savings on non duplicated tests alone will be enormous.

That's it? Some clerical updating going to get my wife back on my plan so I don't have to now pay two premiums a week? That's genius.....:roll:
 
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That's it? Some clerical updating going to get my wife back on my plan so I don't have to now pay two premiums a week? That's genius.....:roll:

Clinical updating will save money in the long run.

Insurance companies are limited to percent of profit they can make which will save the consumer money.

I don't know why your wife is not on your plan.

My daughter and her husband have 2 different plans so they also have two premiums.

That is the way with many couples now.

Not all companies offer family plans.
 
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I disagree.

The ACA is requiring that medical records become computerized so tests are not repeated.

In Lee County Florida all the doctors can access a patients files with the patients approval.

Any X-ray cat scan MRI blood tests etc that a person has at any hospital, clinic or Dr. Office in Lee county can be accessed by the patient or any of the patients doctor so all know what tests have given , that way duplicate tests are not repeated. If the patient is on vacation in another state and becomes ill the on call doctor can access the Lee county medical records for that patient.

Once all patients records are computerized the savings on non duplicated tests alone will be enormous.

Yes, anything run by a bureaucracy will always save taxpayer dollars.

C.F.O.: Long Island College Hospital has 1400 employees caring for 12 patients | Capital New York

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-5zEb1oS9A
 
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You do realize 6 million is roughly 2% of the US population?

What a milestone 2% after 8 months.... Do those numbers seem to you like US citizens are enthusiastic about Obamacare?

But you must believe! Just give it time and it will work someday.

Would Barrack Obama lie?
 
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You do realize 6 million is roughly 2% of the US population?

What a milestone 2% after 8 months.... Do those numbers seem to you like US citizens are enthusiastic about Obamacare?

The majority of persons already have insurance. Many of those people work for companies that pay at least half their premium.

The ACA helps those who do not get insurance through an employee plan.
 
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But you must believe! Just give it time and it will work someday.

Would Barrack Obama lie?

The resistance is amazing - they will never be able to implement Obamacare with 2% - and that is only enrollment and waivers (and who knows how many of that 2% is waivers)... As far as I know no one has been given an "Obamacare plan" just yet.
 
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The majority of persons already have insurance. Many of those people work for companies that pay at least half their premium.

The ACA helps those who do not get insurance through an employee plan.

My understanding was that something like 40 million people (numbers varied) didn't have medical insurance and the ACA was intended to cover them. That doesn't seem to be happening.

Is my summation correct?
 
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The majority of persons already have insurance. Many of those people work for companies that pay at least half their premium.

The ACA helps those who do not get insurance through an employee plan.

You're wrong - very wrong! Only 35% of US citizens have private plans. Even if you want to get really liberal 50% of ALL US citizens are covered under a private plan (but 50% is just not realistic).... Either way 2% is extremely insignificant...

In order for Obamacare to even be a program worthwhile you would have to see 60-70 million people enroll...

That is not going to happen.
 
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Insurance experts estimate that between 80 and 85 percent of people who have signed up have paid.

The other 15 to 20 percent still have time before their premium is due.

They should have a final count around the middle of April.

The USG has spent over 700m on this signup circus. Why is anyone having to estimate anything about it? You'd think a system costing $700m+ would be a little more concrete, don't ya think?
 
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