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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263:617]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    No, you never said anything close to that!



    I don't recall hearing anyone say "The HF supported something in the ACA". The discussion has been about how the idea for the individual mandate originated from the Heritage Foundation
    Well, I know you're smarter than this, and you're just trying to be contrary.

    I posted that PDF because of post #793:

    Do you have a link that neatly summarizes the plan that The Heritage Foundation published (not the Butler piece)? The one Butler published in 1989 which was actually a lecture he gave as I recall was published with the statement that nothing written in it were to be construed as reflecting the views of The Heritage Foundation, or words to that effect

    Now, I've had a bad day and got some unfortunate news so I'd rather not get into a pissing party. I'll rejoin this discussion if either you or Glen can produce a document showing a comprehensive healthcare reform plan that was introduced by The Heritage Foundation and not an opinion lecture by one person.

    Thank you sangha.

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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263:617]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Well, I know you're smarter than this, and you're just trying to be contrary.

    I posted that PDF because of post #793:
    The post I quoted was #786 which was posted before #793
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263:617]

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Let's see... actual history vs. comments from an idiotic conservative blogger. I'll take history, showing, once again, that you have no education on this issue.
    Perhaps rather than just remaining in denial you can actually point to where there are any errors in the part of racism. Did you even watch the video or are so so firmly entrenched in your beliefs that you need constantly protect them?

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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

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    When did the White House come out and say every American (or simply uninsured American) would be signed up on Obamacare in the first six months?
    Where did I say six months? And as well as being a ballsup there is now people who are being excempt from the laws while others are being taken to court.
    The individual mandate extensions (which is what we're discussing) have been granted because the rollout was so terrible.
    And because people were told that they could keep their health care if they liked it, then were told that the health care they wanted to keep was inferior, then others were granted rights not available to other groups. That' why the majority of Americans of always opposed Obamacare and those who do support it tend to support the ideology, not whether its is working or will work.

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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263:617]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    The post I quoted was #786 which was posted before #793
    Oh. Oh well.

    Have a nice night sangha!

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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Where did I say six months?
    You didn't...six months is how long it's been since the exchanges opened (October, November, December, January, February, March).

    And because people were told that they could keep their health care if they liked it
    Which was done with the idea people would have chosen to keep their plans in the first place. That was the point of the grandfather clause.

    then were told that the health care they wanted to keep was inferior, then others were granted rights not available to other groups.
    Had the rollout gone seamlessly, the individual mandate extensions would not likely have been granted.

    That' why the majority of Americans of always opposed Obamacare and those who do support it tend to support the ideology, not whether its is working or will work.
    Most people who play team politics don't care if it succeeds or fails, they'll latch on to whatever makes their party stronger. Republicans will always latch on to negative news and Democrats will always latch on to positive news.

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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    Most people who play team politics don't care if it succeeds or fails, they'll latch on to whatever makes their party stronger. Republicans will always latch on to negative news and Democrats will always latch on to positive news.
    What's the good news for Democrats?

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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    What's the good news for Democrats?
    They surpassed their revised goal of 6 million signups and hit their original goal of 7 million.

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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Do you believe CBO reports that 24 million will have signed up by 2017?
    CBO is often cited by GOPs when it's convenient
    Shouldn't both sides of the ACA debate demand transparency from their side as well, to get to the bottom of the numbers ?
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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Do you believe CBO reports that 24 million will have signed up by 2017?
    I can believe that. Most people will continue to get employer based healthcare coverage. Some people will absolutely refuse coverage and prefer the tax. I can believe 24 million, though there's no way to tell what will happen in the meantime to affect that number.

    Shouldn't both sides of the ACA debate demand transparency from their side as well, to get to the bottom of the numbers ?
    Of course not, because if you demand transparency from yourself, how can you continue to brainwash the followers?

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