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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by Travis007 View Post
    Bro,,,, either Sly has no ability to comprehend facts vs fiction
    Except I told the truth and supported it was facts. I'm not exactly sure why you think posting facts means a person can't comprehend fact from fiction.
    Quote Originally Posted by Eric7216 View Post
    Don't forget the law was passed in 2010 and for 4 years there have been impacts from it. The insuring of children up to 26 was several years ago and accounts for some of the increase. And there are shoes to drop in the coming years that could drive up the uninsured, like the employer mandates.
    The law was passed in 2010, the but the individual mandate, which is what we are talking about now and is one of the biggest drivers of the legislation just opened last October. It's going to take a while, which is to be expected.

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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    It should be quite easy for Sangha to produce actual independent data if this is no secret. How does he know that his claim is true?
    I have posted links to fully sourced data that supports my claims
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

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    Nearly five million people have had their health insurance policies cancelled because of Obamacare. Their coverage didn’t meet the law’s lofty specifications for covered benefits. So they were told they’d have to secure more generous — and more expensive — insurance.
    The Obamacare Law Devours Itself With Exemptions Amid 5 Million (And Counting) Cancellations - Forbes

    That's a few months ago, it is up to 6.2 million now. So, 7.1 - 6.2 = 0.9. Obamacare has 900,000 net sign ups. But, just keep looking the other way, Libs.
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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    Except I told the truth and supported it was facts. I'm not exactly sure why you think posting facts means a person can't comprehend fact from fiction.
    The law was passed in 2010, the but the individual mandate, which is what we are talking about now and is one of the biggest drivers of the legislation just opened last October. It's going to take a while, which is to be expected.
    This 'take a while' certainly wasn't expected by the White House, which is why they kept giving extensions and changing the rules. Starting from last October, years after the Dems forced through the legislation, was not predicted by anyone.

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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263:617]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    When housing rises everyone who has bought thinks they are experts and that the market will never go down. When the market is down many think it will never go up. The thing is to buy a house you want to live in, enjoy, and can afford. When speculating the average person is likely to get hurt.

    The key to investing is always demographics, and the government never seems to recognize this at all. At least not openly. Demographics is also what will bankrupt Obamacare, as well as other social programs.
    No, what will bankrupt Obamacare and all other social programs on the planet is our humanity-wide overuse of natural resources...but that will eventually happen with or without all those social programs anyway.

    But demographics won't 'bankrupt' O-care. Why? Look at all the first-world democracies on the planet - ALL of them. Do you notice something in common between them? They're ALL socialized democracies, ALL of which are more 'socialized' than America...and while most (but not all) of them had a bit of difficulty in the Great Recession, they (and we) are still on top. If demographics were going to ruin a democracy's social programs, then don't you think that by now (Germany's had single-payer health care since the late 1800's even through all their changes) at least one of them would have devolved into third-world status?

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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I have posted links to fully sourced data that supports my claims
    Then you should be able to post a link to the message where you did that and solve all the controversy. I'm not saying you have and I'm not saying you haven't, I have no horse in this race. The ball rests in your court though.
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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263:617]

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    No, what will bankrupt Obamacare and all other social programs on the planet is our humanity-wide overuse of natural resources...but that will eventually happen with or without all those social programs anyway.

    But demographics won't 'bankrupt' O-care. Why? Look at all the first-world democracies on the planet - ALL of them. Do you notice something in common between them? They're ALL socialized democracies, ALL of which are more 'socialized' than America...and while most (but not all) of them had a bit of difficulty in the Great Recession, they (and we) are still on top. If demographics were going to ruin a democracy's social programs, then don't you think that by now (Germany's had single-payer health care since the late 1800's even through all their changes) at least one of them would have devolved into third-world status?

    It's hard to argue with success, guy.
    And its difficult to argue with anyone who doesn't understand demographics. In an aging population there are fewer people to pay for the programs expected by the older people. The USA is almost $18 trillion in debt and there are still people still expect to be paid when they reach old age. Who will pay them?

    Besides housing, that's also what demographics are all about.

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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263:617]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    And its difficult to argue with anyone who doesn't understand demographics. In an aging population there are fewer people to pay for the programs expected by the older people. The USA is almost $18 trillion in debt and there are still people still expect to be paid when they reach old age. Who will pay them?
    There should't have been a need. If all of the money that these people put into the system throughout their careers hadn't been stolen by the criminals in Washington, there would have been plenty of money available. Unfortunately, that's not how the government has worked, they've pilfered the money for decades, figuring they'd be out of office and likely dead before the poop hit the fan and we, as taxpayers and voters, have allowed them to do so instead of holding them responsible.
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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Then you should be able to post a link to the message where you did that and solve all the controversy. I'm not saying you have and I'm not saying you haven't, I have no horse in this race. The ball rests in your court though.
    I have already slam-dunked that ball. You are free to chase after it if you wish
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I have already slam-dunked that ball. You are free to chase after it if you wish
    In other words, you never did what you claim to have done. Gotcha.
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