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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    No, I hear ya, I just don't buy it...
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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263:617]

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    Sorry, my mistake on the gender. Nevertheless, saying that Washington was better off then than it is now is very much like saying that the guy who jumped off the skyscraper was just fine when he was at the 100th floor, at the 90th floor, at the 80th floor....

    I was a Realtor in Bremerton at that time, and it was pretty crazy - the bidding wars for houses were like nothing anyone had seen in living memory. I should have recognized it for what it was then, because I refinanced my house...and after the GR hit, my house was suddenly $200K underwater. It was foreclosed about 3 years ago, but its value still has not approached what it was in 2005.

    TB, while times seemed good in WA in 2005, they looked good all across America in the 1920's. But that doesn't mean that they were good - it means that nobody realized that the house was on fire and most people were going to get burned in the process.
    No worries on the gender thing, Glen.

    I understand your point about real estate and what was happening in 2005 as far as what ultimately happened. And we don't know today what the reality of our economy will be in 6, 10 or 12 years either as a result of what's happening today.

    But the reality is the poster who is claiming that all blue states are doing "just fine" and there are more jobs now in those states than there were during the Bush years is factually incorrect (which are the 2 claims he made).

    I am sorry about your house. I hope it all worked out for you.

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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263:617]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    No worries on the gender thing, Glen.

    I understand your point about real estate and what was happening in 2005 as far as what ultimately happened. And we don't know today what the reality of our economy will be in 6, 10 or 12 years either as a result of what's happening today.

    But the reality is the poster who is claiming that all blue states are doing "just fine" and there are more jobs now in those states than there were during the Bush years is factually incorrect (which are the 2 claims he made).

    I am sorry about your house. I hope it all worked out for you.
    Everything worked out just fine, but thanks -

    Again, when people are living high on the hog on credit - which is what America was doing in 2005 - that doesn't mean that we were doing that good. It simply means we were living on credit, and the bubble burst in 2008.
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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    It was always predicted that only a small portion would sign up the first year. As penalties for uninsured are collected and start to increase a larger percentage of the uninsured should sign up in the following years.
    If it's so good for them, and "It's what the American people want", why do they have to be forced to do it?
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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I don't buy that at all..I think all these numbers are made up.
    Considering all the lies the administration has told about it so far, I think you're probably right.
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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263:617]

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    Everything worked out just fine, but thanks -

    Again, when people are living high on the hog on credit - which is what America was doing in 2005 - that doesn't mean that we were doing that good. It simply means we were living on credit, and the bubble burst in 2008.
    So then on a national scale, Obama is doing the same damned thing.
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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    No, I hear ya, I just don't buy it...
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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263:617]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    So then on a national scale, Obama is doing the same damned thing.
    Um, where's the housing bubble, then?
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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263:617]

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    Everything worked out just fine, but thanks -

    Again, when people are living high on the hog on credit - which is what America was doing in 2005 - that doesn't mean that we were doing that good. It simply means we were living on credit, and the bubble burst in 2008.
    When housing rises everyone who has bought thinks they are experts and that the market will never go down. When the market is down many think it will never go up. The thing is to buy a house you want to live in, enjoy, and can afford. When speculating the average person is likely to get hurt.

    The key to investing is always demographics, and the government never seems to recognize this at all. At least not openly. Demographics is also what will bankrupt Obamacare, as well as other social programs.

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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I don't buy that at all..I think all these numbers are made up.
    It should be quite easy for Sangha to produce actual independent data if this is no secret. How does he know that his claim is true?
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