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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263:617]

    6 million sign ups, isn't just about the figure Obamacare caused to lose their insurance because it didn't meet Obamacare specs. Seems to me we are back to square one at the moment.
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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263:617]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Original Goal? Keep moving the goalposts, what did Whitehouse.gov say about Obamacare when it was being promoted and debated? You think a program that leaves over 30 million uninsured that will cost the taxpayers almost 2 trillion dollars is a success? Wow, what is it about liberalism that creates this kind of loyalty?
    Give it time grasshopper.

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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263:617]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    I know right? Why WOULD they -
    Ridiculous assumption on your part.

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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263:617]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Does anyone here really know what the ORIGINAL GOAL was? The law has been changed and the goal posts moved so many times that many people here have no concept as to what the real goal was. I always thought it was to get the uninsured insured, not taking insured people who lost their coverage to sign up for ACA or people eligible for Medicaid to sign up for Medicaid? What is wrong with you people that support Obama?
    I do. We were trying to address the 48 million or so without healthcare insurance. If you subtract those that had healthcare but had it taken away, and those that signed up but haven't/won't pay, we've probably addressed about 2-3 million of those 48 million.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    APRIL FOOLS!!!

    Seriously, is anyone dumb enough to believe this?
    Honestly it is fun to see how the righties get their panties in a wad over this.

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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Facts? What do you know about facts?
    Plenty. Way more than you.

    Do you call a program designed to get most of the 45 million reported uninsured and only gets 6-7 million a success? It is this kind of low standards along with poor logic and common sense that keeps people unemployed
    Here's the difference between you and me. You look at a reduction of uninsured people by 6-7 million, call it a failure and say "let's get rid of it and go back to the system that had 45 million people uninsured in the first place". I look at what you're saying and try to figure out how someone can be so blinded by partisan politics they are incapable of understanding why their position is so stupid and illogical.

    6-7 million is a good start. When you factor in the first year or two's low tax cost for not having insurance, it's not surprising to hear there are many people who will not sign up. But as the tax for not having insurance goes up, more people will choose to have insurance. And when more and more people get insurance, more and more people will have the opportunity to become/stay healthy. And once more people join insurance pools and more people are healthy (and no longer broke from medical catastrophes), costs will go down and people will have more money to spend.

    That's the general plan behind the concept. Will it work? Only time will tell. Will it need tweaking and revising from time to time? Absolutely. But it remains a mystery to me how someone can say only 6-7 million now have insurance, so we should scrap the program after 6 months and go back to the way we did it before where those 6-7 million didn't have insurance. Somehow, in your partisan mind, if it's not an "everyone now is insured" solution in the first six months, we should go back to what was the problem in the first place. That's just asinine.

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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263:617]

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    Honestly it is fun to see how the righties get their panties in a wad over this.
    Really, that's what you see?

    Actually, it's sad to see so little elation from Democrats, because they all know a bald-faced lie when they see one. Nobody believes that report. Nobody.

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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Facts? What do you know about facts? Do you call a program designed to get most of the 45 million reported uninsured and only gets 6-7 million a success? It is this kind of low standards along with poor logic and common sense that keeps people unemployed
    How long did it take for Social Security to become a success? Some might say never, due to ideology or links they give. As for other "entitlements", how many of them faced the headwinds of the current Hurricane GOP?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    Plenty. Way more than you.

    Here's the difference between you and me. You look at a reduction of uninsured people by 6-7 million, call it a failure and say "let's get rid of it and go back to the system that had 45 million people uninsured in the first place". I look at what you're saying and try to figure out how someone can be so blinded by partisan politics they are incapable of understanding why their position is so stupid and illogical.

    6-7 million is a good start. When you factor in the first year or two's low tax cost for not having insurance, it's not surprising to hear there are many people who will not sign up. But as the tax for not having insurance goes up, more people will choose to have insurance. And when more and more people get insurance, more and more people will have the opportunity to become/stay healthy. And once more people join insurance pools and more people are healthy (and no longer broke from medical catastrophes), costs will go down and people will have more money to spend.

    That's the general plan behind the concept. Will it work? Only time will tell. Will it need tweaking and revising from time to time? Absolutely. But it remains a mystery to me how someone can say only 6-7 million now have insurance, so we should scrap the program after 6 months and go back to the way we did it before where those 6-7 million didn't have insurance. Somehow, in your partisan mind, if it's not an "everyone now is insured" solution in the first six months, we should go back to what was the problem in the first place. That's just asinine.
    Subtract the people that already had insurance but had it taken away. Subtract the hardcore liberals who cancelled their own so they can get on board the Good Ship Lollipop. Subtract the people who signed up but didn't pay. Subtract the media and DNC operatives who signed up just to boost the numbers to help stem the embarrassment.

    It would not surprise me if the actual enrollee number is less than a million of those targeted 48 million uninsured.

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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263:617]

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    Give it time grasshopper.
    Time for what? more lies? More self promotion? More distortions? We have had almost 6 years of that and still we have people like you supporting Obama

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