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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    So then option 3 is "do nothing"?
    That is something for everyone to decide for themselves.

    I am all about the freedom.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    That is something for everyone to decide for themselves.

    I am all about the freedom.
    Right. You have the freedom to buy from an insurance company, or you have the freedom to pay the tax that's imposed on you for not buying a third party's goods or services, with that tax going into the purchase of the third party's goods or service.

    I missed the option of exercising your freedom to not buy something from a third party and not having your taxes raised when you exercise that freedom.

    I wonder when the government is going to mandate that we have to buy hybrid cars, non-disposable diapers, milk from John Smith's dairy, and blue sweaters, and have our taxes raised when we don't.

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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Right. You have the freedom to buy from an insurance company, or you have the freedom to pay the tax that's imposed on you for not buying a third party's goods or services, with that tax going into the purchase of the third party's goods or service.
    People now have two freedoms where they used to have only one.


    I missed the option of exercising your freedom to not buy something from a third party and not having your taxes raised when you exercise that freedom.
    You can't always get what you want.

    I wonder when the government is going to mandate that we have to buy hybrid cars, non-disposable diapers, milk from John Smith's dairy, and blue sweaters, and have our taxes raised when we don't.
    And I wonder when my dog will start farting rainbows and unicorns, but I'm not holding my breath
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    So then option 3 is "do nothing"?
    Well they aren't being forced to break the law.....that's their choice. But they will be penalized for something they weren't forced to do.....huh?

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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Well they aren't being forced to break the law.....that's their choice. But they will be penalized for something they weren't forced to do.....huh?
    Interesting, isn't it? But it's all about the "freedom".

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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    People now have two freedoms where they used to have only one.




    You can't always get what you want.



    And I wonder when my dog will start farting rainbows and unicorns, but I'm not holding my breath
    Ah, so the government is now in charge of doling out our "freedoms" as they see fit.

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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Not to mention, by its very definition, the insurace mandate requires that you either buy third party insurance, or you make a payment to the IRS for purposes of funding the insurance pool. Yet there are many on here who are trying to claim that nobody is being forced to do anything.
    These people are still living on Hope, perhaps with some positive Change thrown in. They are naive and foolish, and there is not much can be done about it except wait. There are still the hopers, hanging on to words which were false from day one, but they continue to believe and to hope. They have invested to much to quit now.

    In the end, that's what this election is about. Do we participate in a politics of cynicism or a politics of hope? John Kerry calls on us to hope. John Edwards calls on us to hope. I'm not talking about blind optimism here — the almost willful ignorance that thinks unemployment will go away if we just don't talk about it, or the health care crisis will solve itself if we just ignore it. No, I'm talking about something more substantial. It's the hope of slaves sitting around a fire singing freedom songs; the hope of immigrants setting out for distant shores; the hope of a young naval lieutenant bravely patrolling the Mekong Delta; the hope of a millworker's son who dares to defy the odds; the hope of a skinny kid with a funny name who believes that America has a place for him, too. Hope in the face of difficulty. Hope in the face of uncertainty. The audacity of hope!
    "Our government shouldn’t make promises we cannot keep — but we must keep the promises we’ve already made". - Same guy.

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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    People now have two freedoms where they used to have only one.
    There are two freedoms? I'd thought there was just one.

    Well perhaps we should try for three freedoms. Maybe even more!

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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    There are two freedoms? I'd thought there was just one.

    Well perhaps we should try for three freedoms. Maybe even more!
    Why only three? I want 57 freedoms.

    I guess paying your taxes is a new freedom. Or maybe it's buying a third party's product. Hard to tell.

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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Why only three? I want 57 freedoms.
    No, Mr Heinz! So far you're just allowed two. Maybe in 2017 there might be a third, if Harry Reid doesn't hold it up in the Senate.

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