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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I didn't say you said it.

    A mandate by definition is an official order to do something. It's an official order to avoid paying a tax. Pretty simple.

    This is a tax issue, not a healthcare or insurance issue.
    If you still don't understand what the individual mandate refers to, or how it works, then I don't know how to help you
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    "...The adoption of an individual mandate as a central component of Barack Obama's Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act in 2009."

    Health insurance mandate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    I always heard that the mandate was required to make this work. Now all of a sudden we're being told that nobody has to buy insurance. That doesn't go hand in hand with mandating something. S

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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    If you still don't understand what the individual mandate refers to, or how it works, then I don't know how to help you
    Do you know what the word "mandate" means? It doesn't mean "optional".

    So either there is a mandate to buy insurance, or there isn't.

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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    If you still don't understand what the individual mandate refers to, or how it works, then I don't know how to help you
    The 'mandate' has changed dozens of time since passed by Congress, and never with the permission of Congress.

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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Do you know what the word "mandate" means? It doesn't mean "optional".

    So either there is a mandate to buy insurance, or there isn't.
    I also know what the word "patriot" means, but I still don't support the PATRIOT Act.

    I also believe in religious freedom, but I don't support the RELIGIOUS FREEDOM RESTORATION Act

    But you keep believing that the language politicians use to describe things are meant to be interpreted literally. it doesn't make your argument appear naive at all.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Eventually you are going to come to the reality that you are in the minority and thus the losing side of this issue. This country wasn't built on your vision of a large central govt. providing you with personal responsibility issues. You and I have absolutely nothing in common as my vision rests on personal responsibility, neighbor helping neighbor, and most social issues resting at the state and local level. Yours is one that supports a Federal bureaucracy that has generated a 17.3 trillion dollar debt and rising.
    Could you remind me Conservative, who passed the Medicare Part "D" act that requires the Federal government to buy prescription drugs at full price and is paid using taxpayers money?

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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I also know what the word "patriot" means, but I still don't support the PATRIOT Act.

    I also believe in religious freedom, but I don't support the RELIGIOUS FREEDOM RESTORATION Act

    But you keep believing that the language politicians use to describe things are meant to be interpreted literally. it doesn't make your argument appear naive at all.
    We aren't talking about the Patriot Act.

    Is the law written to include a mandate that most Americans must buy healthcare insurance - yes or no?

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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    The 'mandate' has changed dozens of time since passed by Congress, and never with the permission of Congress.
    Not to mention, by its very definition, the insurace mandate requires that you either buy third party insurance, or you make a payment to the IRS for purposes of funding the insurance pool.

    Yet there are many on here who are trying to claim that nobody is being forced to do anything.

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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    We aren't talking about the Patriot Act.

    Is the law written to include a mandate that most Americans must buy healthcare insurance - yes or no?
    The "individual mandate" applies to all americans. It does not force anyone to buy health insurance.

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Not to mention, by its very definition, the insurace mandate requires that you either buy third party insurance, or you make a payment to the IRS for purposes of funding the insurance pool.

    Yet there are many on here who are trying to claim that nobody is being forced to do anything.
    Correct. No one is being forced to do anything by the individual mandate.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    The "individual mandate" applies to all americans. It does not force anyone to buy health insurance.



    Correct. No one is being forced to do anything by the individual mandate.
    So then option 3 is "do nothing"?

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