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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    They have the right to tax me to pay for military equipment, bought from third parties, even though I've never declared war on anybody
    They don't tax you if you don't personally purchase military equipment. The discussion isn't about government spending. It's about taxing citizens for not purchasing something.

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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Um, yes, we already knew that. And?
    Your question asked about the govt's power to tax people who didn't buy healthcare

    SCOTUS says the govt has that power.
    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    They don't tax you if you don't personally purchase military equipment. The discussion isn't about government spending. It's about taxing citizens for not purchasing something.
    Doesn't matter. You are making a distinction

    You don't get to decide the parameters of the discussion.
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    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Your question asked about the govt's power to tax people who didn't buy healthcare

    SCOTUS says the govt has that power.
    My question? Which question was that? I'm the one who said it was a tax, not a fine.

    Healthcare insurance, not healthcare. Nobody is taxed if they don't buy healthcare.

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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    The govt isn't forcing anyone to buy insurance



    Actually, it is
    Actually, it isn't. The discussion still isn't about government spending. It's about taxing individual citizens for not purchasing a third party good or service.

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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    My question? Which question was that? I'm the one who said it was a tax, not a fine.

    Healthcare insurance, not healthcare. Nobody is taxed if they don't buy healthcare.
    I left the word "insurance" out. BFD

    The point, the govt has the power to assess a tax penalty if you don't buy health insurance.
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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Actually, it isn't. The discussion still isn't about government spending. It's about taxing individual citizens for not purchasing a third party good or service.
    Actually it is, but as I have pointed out to you, the govt has the power to assess a tax penalty if you don't buy health insurance.
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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Your question asked about the govt's power to tax people who didn't buy healthcare

    SCOTUS says the govt has that power.


    Doesn't matter. You are making a distinction

    You don't get to decide the parameters of the discussion.
    I didn't say I get to decide anything. But I can certainly point out to posters that their posts aren't in context with the discussion.

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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Actually it is, but as I have pointed out to you, the govt has the power to assess a tax penalty if you don't buy health insurance.
    And we all already knew that. Why do you keep repeating it? I'm the one who said it was a tax, not a fine.

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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I didn't say I get to decide anything. But I can certainly point out to posters that their posts aren't in context with the discussion.
    Yes, you can be as wrong as you want to be
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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    And we all already knew that. Why do you keep repeating it? I'm the one who said it was a tax, not a fine.
    As long as you keep responding to my point that the govt has the power to assess a tax penalty if you don't buy health insurance, I will keep repeating the fact that the govt has the power to assess a tax penalty if you don't buy health insurance.
    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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