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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Your #'s are all wrong
    like "you can keep your dr"...another lie ^

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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Since the old don't need it, the young aren't signing up, and the poor can't afford it....who's left? 6 million people I suppose.
    Actually, 9.5 million are now insured who were uninsured before.
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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    From the article
    Oh, that great. So it is not in a "Death Spiral." Glad to know things are going so well with this much loved program.
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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    I think, over the course of time, a lot of people will sign up for "Obamacare." I signed up in December, and it was a frustrating process, very difficult to figure out how it worked and it was even harder to sign up for and use the website. As bad as that experience was, my premium went down about 90% and my coverage is way better than it had been. I was amongst the group of people who this law was meant to help - I have terrible medical problems and my job doesn't pay very well. I had been paying $200 a month for lousy insurance. Obamacare has significantly improved my life.

    I hope that people show support for the ACA because it may have problems, but we can fix those problems because it's worth it if it helps people. I don't understand how people could support spending billions of dollars going to war with a country that didn't attack us and yet oppose a law that helps Americans in need of medical care.
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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Interesting: from the article

    At least 6 million people have signed up for health coverage on the new marketplaces, about one-third of whom were previously uninsured.
    Doesn't that mean that 2 million have signed up for ACA?

    Further as reported many of that 6 million went on Medicaid, an existing program so the question is why did we need ACA rather than just improving the awareness of Medicaid programs?

    It is absolutely amazing to me how anyone can tout a program of this magnitude that will leave over 30 million uninsured

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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mustachio View Post
    I think, over the course of time, a lot of people will sign up for "Obamacare." I signed up in December, and it was a frustrating process, very difficult to figure out how it worked and it was even harder to sign up for and use the website. As bad as that experience was, my premium went down about 90% and my coverage is way better than it had been. I was amongst the group of people who this law was meant to help - I have terrible medical problems and my job doesn't pay very well. I had been paying $200 a month for lousy insurance. Obamacare has significantly improved my life.

    I hope that people show support for the ACA because it may have problems, but we can fix those problems because it's worth it if it helps people. I don't understand how people could support spending billions of dollars going to war with a country that didn't attack us and yet oppose a law that helps Americans in need of medical care.
    Do you have any problem with a program that helps increase the yearly debt service which currently is 250 billion a year? IF this is such a great program why are so many Democrats running from it?

    I love how you try to equate the cost of the Iraq War with estimated costs for Obamacare.

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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    LOL, because Obama said so? Surely they wouldn't cook the books to save face. I mean, that would be so out of character, wouldn't it? LOL

    And since when does America consist of only 12 states and Washington, DC?

    Democrats up for election are running for the hills from this thing?

    The whole thing is based on 1+1=20. It will never add up.
    Don't mind reality, because if you look at the statistical tables put out by the left, it is going great! I think it is like having a government program to have your fingernails pulled out every two months. They could put out their own stats about how well it is going, but I have a feeling that I would think that the whole program sucks.
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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Do you have any problem with a program that helps increase the yearly debt service which currently is 250 billion a year? IF this is such a great program why are so many Democrats running from it?

    I love how you try to equate the cost of the Iraq War with estimated costs for Obamacare.
    I have a problem with anything that increases the debt. Our government is overloaded with inefficiency. Medicare needs reform. The ACA needs reform. Welfare needs reform. But also, there's only one country in the world that spends even 1/7th or more on their military than we do. And that one country spends 1/3rd of what we do. That's moronic. So yes, I am equating the cost of Iraq (and those who support war with Iran) with Obamacare. Brown University did a study which found the cost of war in Iraq and Afghanistan totaled almost $4 trillion. Obamacare is estimated to cost just over $1 trillion in the next ten years.

    So what do you find funny about comparing the two?
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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mustachio View Post
    I have a problem with anything that increases the debt. Our government is overloaded with inefficiency. Medicare needs reform. The ACA needs reform. Welfare needs reform. But also, there's only one country in the world that spends even 1/7th or more on their military than we do. And that one country spends 1/3rd of what we do. That's moronic. So yes, I am equating the cost of Iraq (and those who support war with Iran) with Obamacare. Brown University did a study which found the cost of war in Iraq and Afghanistan totaled almost $4 trillion. Obamacare is estimated to cost just over $1 trillion in the next ten years.

    So what do you find funny about comparing the two?
    The Iraq War ended with the status of forces agreement in 2008 and ACA will be an ongoing expense that will continue to add to the deficit. Don't really care about the Brown study only what the Treasury says the cost of the war was and what it actually cost the treasury thus the taxpayers. Obamacare will continue to increase costs and has no business being supported by the Federal Taxpayers and borrowed money. Healthcare is a personal responsibility, not a Federal taxpayer responsibility. If anything it belongs at the state and local level, not the national level.

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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    The Iraq War ended with the status of forces agreement in 2008 and ACA will be an ongoing expense that will continue to add to the deficit. Don't really care about the Brown study only what the Treasury says the cost of the war was and what it actually cost the treasury thus the taxpayers. Obamacare will continue to increase costs and has no business being supported by the Federal Taxpayers and borrowed money. Healthcare is a personal responsibility, not a Federal taxpayer responsibility. If anything it belongs at the state and local level, not the national level.
    NEW YORK (Reuters) - The U.S. war in Iraq has cost $1.7 trillion with an additional $490 billion in benefits owed to war veterans, expenses that could grow to more than $6 trillion over the next four decades counting interest, a study released on Thursday said.
    So there's your treasury estimate. Face it, you lost that one. You should know what you're talking about before you act like I'm an idiot for having a clue. You may not care how much a war costs, but that doesn't mean they're free. Your whole "I don't even think about the facts" attitude is pretty handy though. It means you can continue to think you're right, no matter how conclusively I prove you wrong.

    Health insurance belongs at the state and local level? Well it's a good thing I signed up for MnSure - my state's health care plan - and not Obamacare. I realize that there are requirements put in place by Obamacare, but I think one of the best ideas in the ACA was to let states decide how they wanted to go about the business of getting people insured. Whether you like it or not, health insurance became everybody's business a long time ago. So it's up to you to believe whether or not we should be a nation that takes care of our sick people or a nation that shrugs and looks the other way. "Personal responsibility" is often just another way of saying "me, me, mine."
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