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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    That wasn't the point at all. Simply reading the thread would have allowed you to know that. It never ceases to amaze me how many people will ignore reality to launch partisan attacks.

    I have no idea how many people have paid their first premium. It seems I remember it was roughly 80% have paid or would pay. I know that has been a prediction from several different entities. And I would be very surprised if the administration really does have the numbers of who have paid, because that is a completely separate deal than those who simply enroll in the federal website.

    But at the end of the day, the administration HAS released the number of people who enrolled and have done so every month since October, which proves Mason's argument false.
    If 80 percent had paid or would pay, you would KNOW for sure. It'd be all over every piece of media in every nook and cranny, even with the shortfall in sign-ups.

    The link I provided says that 4 out of 5 sign-ups require subsidies, so in fact, that means only 20 percent will pay, many of whom require expensive medical care immediately.

    It's an absolute disaster.

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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    The link I provided says that 4 out of 5 sign-ups require subsidies, so in fact, that means only 20 percent will pay
    Untrue. Receiving a subsidy does not mean that the insured pays nothing.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    If 80 percent had paid or would pay, you would KNOW for sure. It'd be all over every piece of media in every nook and cranny, even with the shortfall in sign-ups.
    Not if they didn't have the ability to know. Running a query against a database to see how many people have registered on the federal exchange is a much different process than knowing how many people have written a check to an insurance company.

    The link I provided says that 4 out of 5 sign-ups require subsidies, so in fact, that means only 20 percent will pay, many of whom require expensive medical care immediately.
    A subsidy doesn't mean the people are not paying as well. And if someone is so poor 100% of their insurance is being paid, then they probably were already getting covered by Medicaid.

    It's an absolute disaster.
    You've already made it clear you're not interested in whether it's a success or not, only in finding ways to call it a disaster. You have very little credibility on the subject, quite honestly.

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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Untrue. Receiving a subsidy does not mean that the insured pays nothing.
    Getting a subsidy means that the taxpayers did pay towards someone else's health insurance and that is the fact that you want to ignore. Why is it your responsibility to pay for the uninsured in TX or mine to pay for the uninsured in your state? All I see from people like you is promotion of the nanny state where where never are any consequences for failure or poor choices. Why is that?

    By the way how are you coming on telling Whitehouse.gov they are wrong in their projections and that you are the one right? Keep running

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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    Not if they didn't have the ability to know. Running a query against a database to see how many people have registered on the federal exchange is a much different process than knowing how many people have written a check to an insurance company.

    A subsidy doesn't mean the people are not paying as well. And if someone is so poor 100% of their insurance is being paid, then they probably were already getting covered by Medicaid.

    You've already made it clear you're not interested in whether it's a success or not, only in finding ways to call it a disaster. You have very little credibility on the subject, quite honestly.
    It is a disaster, many who are signing up are doing so on Medicaid which they were eligible for prior to Obamacare but didn't sign up. why do we need Obamacare and the 1.8 trillion dollar cost? Is there anything about liberalism that is a success?

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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

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    It is a disaster, many who are signing up are doing so on Medicaid which they were eligible for prior to Obamacare but didn't sign up.
    If they were eligible for Medicaid and weren't aware of it, but needed healthcare, then Obamacare is a good thing. I'm not a heartless person, I'm willing to pay a little more to make sure people can get the care they need.

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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    If they were eligible for Medicaid and weren't aware of it, but needed healthcare, then Obamacare is a good thing. I'm not a heartless person, I'm willing to pay a little more to make sure people can get the care they need.
    It's funny watching how the right started complaining about how there weren't enough people signing up, and now that the programs are reporting greater participation, they are complaining that too many people are signing up
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    If they were eligible for Medicaid and weren't aware of it, but needed healthcare, then Obamacare is a good thing. I'm not a heartless person, I'm willing to pay a little more to make sure people can get the care they need.
    LOL, so the fact that people were unaware they were eligible for Medicare is a reason to enact ACA at a cost of billions added to the debt each year? Wow, that liberal logic is scary.

    If you are willing to pay more for someone else's healthcare why not contribute directly? Why do you need a bureaucrat that helped create the 17.3 trillion dollar debt to do it for you?

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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Still hoping for a 'symbolic victory'?

    The actual desperation lies with those Democrats up for re-election who don't want Barrack Obama's name mentioned during their campaign.

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    They can't even tell you who paid, and they were counting people who merely entered the website as people who signed up. And what's more, 6 million is far far below there original projections. And why are Democrats distancing themselves from such a huge and unprecedented success?
    "He who does not think himself worth saving from poverty and ignorance by his own efforts, will hardly be thought worth the efforts of anybody else." -- Frederick Douglass, Self-Made Men (1872)
    "Fly-over" country voted, and The Donald is now POTUS.

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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    It's funny watching how the right started complaining about how there weren't enough people signing up, and now that the programs are reporting greater participation, they are complaining that too many people are signing up
    Right, 6 million signing up without a breakdown is a victor for a program that is going to add over 180 billion a year to the deficit and still leave over 30 million people uninsured? such low standards you have when it comes to this administration. Wonder if you have such low standards in your personal life?

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