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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    You do realize (more likely you don't) that ACA is responsible for almost three times that number of people getting coverage, don't you?

    That's right! 16.5 million people in just a few months.



    No, it's not.

    In the first year, initial plans were to enroll 7 million in exchange plans and 9 million in Medicaid and CHIP, and not all of them would be people who had been previously uninsured



    Really? Do you have any links to the govt saying that the #'s you are referring to "should be available by" any date?

    Or are the lies you're referring to your own?



    It was never meant to insure 32+ million uninsured in the first year.
    Noticed you ran from the Whitehouse.gov site and information provided. You simply have no concept as to what the goals were of ACA and how miserably it has failed. Costs don't matter to you as long as someone else is paying those costs, right?

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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Do you realize that the uninsured expense isn't a federal expense but rather a state expense making this a state issue and not a federal issue? Of course that fact is ignored by supporters of Obamacare. Absolutely amazing how little so many know about the role of the Federal govt, the expenses generated, and the responsibilities of the individual. ..
    I know that every one of us who has insurance has been paying for the uninsured even before the ACA was passed.

    I know that many of my relatives now are able to put their adult children under the age of 26 on their family policies.

    I know that good friend who a had a pre existing condition that made her uninsurable now has insurance.
    When it comes to matters of reproduce health, Politicians and the religious dogma of another faith should never interfere with religious liberty of an individual or her faith.

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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    How could they possibly not know these numbers now? Are they not using computers?
    Who says they do not know them ? The numbers are constantly increasing.
    When it comes to matters of reproduce health, Politicians and the religious dogma of another faith should never interfere with religious liberty of an individual or her faith.

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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    I know that every one of us who has insurance has been paying for the uninsured even before the ACA was passed.

    I know that many of my relatives now are able to put their adult children under the age of 26 on their family policies.

    I know that good friend who a had a pre existing condition that made her uninsurable now has insurance.
    Isn't it amazing how far we have come and not in a positive way?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02eY6h6Vqjc

    When did it become the government's responsibility for you or your family to get health insurance paid for by someone else?

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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    [QUOTE=minnie61doesn't 09013cost People's premiums have been going WAY
    UP for years.

    Maybe you didn't notice it because companies use to pay for their employees insurance.

    Now in the last 10 years more and more companies are asking their employees to share the cost of their insurance.

    Since my husband and his brothers have owned a small business for the last 40 years I know insurance costs were Skyrocketing before President Obama took office. They have been skyrocketing for decades. This has not happened just in the last 10 years.
    Heath care costs need to be reigned in.[/QUOTE]

    Huh ??

    Ok, first things first.

    ObamaCare is also known as the " AFFORDABLE Care Act ".

    One of Obama's mulitple exagerations was that it would lower premiums by 2500.00 for your average Family.

    It hasn't and you people know it hasn't.

    You being politically motivated to mitigate away these acute and substantial cost increases doesn't help those who have just been forced off their old insurance.

    And who are now finding out that they are going to have allot less money for things like Food and Clothes and monthly expenses in general.

    You cant claim this law wasn't sold on false pretenses and broken promises.

    Instead of " If you like your plan you can keep it " and " the average Family will Save 2500 dollars a year in premiums " what Obama should have done was explained to America that they may need to stop paying for their Canle TV Service and their Cell Phones because this law is going to cause a Premium INCREASE.

    Problem is, if he had just told the truth we would have to contend with the effects of ObamaCares implimention.

    For a party that claims to represent the little guy, for a party that claims to be sympathetic to the struggles of the average America, this perpetual open denial of this laws effects on Millions of Americans really makes you people seem prerty cold hearted.

    Don't get me wrong, I'm all for the current self destruction thats happening in the Democrat party right now.

    Keep it up. Keep insulting the intelligence of Millions of Americans who've just had their insurance cancelled by telling them its whats best for them and their family.

    Keep telling them that the annual pay cut of a few thousand dollars they just recieved is just a normal continuation of premium hikes not related to this law.

    Keep telling them their new policies ( if they can even afford them ) are better because men now have prenatal coverage.

    Its a win for Conservatives and eventually this Country as it defines Nationally the Democrat brand to match its twisted and selfish core principles

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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    Who says they do not know them ? The numbers are constantly increasing.
    Do you understand what is happening here? We have a 17.3 trillion dollar debt, a program that will add another 1.8 trillion entitlement program to the mix which adds to the yearly debt service paid for by those of us paying taxes?

    I cannot believe what has happened to this country and the entitlement mentality of far too many. Where does personal responsibility rest in your world? Do you realize we pay 250 BILLION a year in debt service? how many could that number insure?

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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    When do I get my $2500 in savings that Obama promised? Since my healthcare went up $700 this year, I guess Obama will be sending me $3200.
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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    Who says they do not know them ? The
    numbers are constantly increasing.
    Honestly ?

    The numbers are increasing on such a exponential scale that not even thd Government's most powerful computers can give us a Count ?

    Computers with processors that can process mathematical computations in the "teraflop per second " range cant offer up a remote guess ?

    LOL !

    The thing is WE know that THEY know exactly how many people have signed up and NOT payed.

    You wanna know how ??

    Because if it was Good news for the Democrat party, they would be running that data NON-STOP on every News Outlet.

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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Do you understand what is happening here? We have a 17.3 trillion dollar debt, a program that will add another 1.8 trillion entitlement program to the mix which adds to the yearly debt service paid for by those of us paying taxes?

    I cannot believe what has happened to this country and the entitlement mentality of far too many. Where does personal responsibility rest in your world? Do you realize we pay 250 BILLION a year in debt service? how many could that number insure?
    Without getting into all the big government this, big spending that, more entitlements, free condoms, etc... I'd just like one explanation from the libs. With all these things, what are your plans for getting the debt under control?
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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Do you realize that the uninsured expense isn't a federal expense but rather a state expense making this a state issue and not a federal issue? Of course that fact is ignored by supporters of Obamacare. Absolutely amazing how little so many know about the role of the Federal govt,
    Under EMTALA, a federal law, the fed govt reimburses hospitals for expenses relating to providing emergency care to the uninsured

    So yeah, it's pretty amazing how little some people know about this

    Particularly the know-it-alls
    Last edited by sangha; 03-30-14 at 04:24 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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