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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    Clinical updating will save money in the long run.
    Oh, "in the long run" eh? So far this updating is costing practices upwards of $100K causing prices of office visits to rise.

    Insurance companies are limited to percent of profit they can make which will save the consumer money.
    If that is the case then why are costs projected to skyrocket even with O-care in place?

    "Health insurance premiums have risen more after Obamacare than the average premium increases over the eight years before it became law, according to the private health exchange eHealthInsurance.

    The individual market for health insurance has seen premiums rise by 39 percent since February 2013, eHealth reports."



    Read more: Premiums rising faster than eight years before Obamacare | The Daily Caller

    I don't know why your wife is not on your plan.
    I can tell you what the company put out, even though you will dismiss it out of hand....My employer tells me that they looked at a range of options available to them, including dropping coverage all together. And because of projected costs, and the the mandates that will run out of waiver for businesses at the end of this year, (before their next re up time) they had to make the decision to drop spouses as a cost saving measure. My guess is that this is the similar excuse for many.

    "Twenty percent of nearly 600 large employers in a survey completed earlier this year charged a spousal surcharge in 2013. An additional 13 percent plan to do so next year, according to the study, which was conducted by benefits consultant Towers Watson and the nonprofit National Business Group on Health. Those surcharges average about $100 a month, or roughly double what they averaged a couple years ago.

    The study also found that 4 percent of companies excluded spouses from their health plans when similar coverage was available through the spouse's employer. And another 8 percent planned to do so next year."

    More Companies Plan To Cut Health Coverage For Spouses

    "UVA said Wednesday this is only one of many “major changes” coming to their health plans as a result of ObamaCare. The university says the changes are necessary because the law is projected to add $7.3 million to the cost of the university’s health plan in 2014 alone.

    “The modified plan will provide new options and reward those who participate in wellness programs,” UVA’s Vice President and Chief Human Resources Officer Susan Carkeek said in a press release. “But we must make adjustments or face millions of dollars in rising costs, fees and taxes that would be passed along to employees.”

    Similarly, UPS partially blamed the new health law for the change, which is estimated to affect roughly 15,000 employee spouses.

    The rising cost of health care "combined with the costs associated with the Affordable Care Act, have made it increasingly difficult to continue providing the same level of health care benefits to our employees at an affordable cost," UPS said."

    Employers dropping coverage for thousands of spouses over ObamaCare costs | Fox News

    "By denying coverage to spouses, employers not only save the annual premiums, but also the new fees that went into effect as part of the Affordable Care Act. This year, companies have to pay $1 or $2 “per life” covered on their plans, a sum that jumps to $65 in 2014. And health law guidelines proposed recently mandate coverage of employees’ dependent children (up to age 26), but husbands and wives are optional. “The question about whether it’s obligatory to cover the family of the employee is being thought through more than ever before,” says Helen Darling, president of the National Business Group on Health. See: When your boss doesn’t trust your doctor"

    Why your boss is dumping your wife - MarketWatch

    My daughter and her husband have 2 different plans so they also have two premiums.

    That is the way with many couples now.

    Not all companies offer family plans.
    That is true today, but it is a direct result of O-Care....You leave that out for some reason...
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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    The USG has spent over 700m on this signup circus. Why is anyone having to estimate anything about it? You'd think a system costing $700m+ would be a little more concrete, don't ya think?
    According to the article I linked to the final count of enrollments ( those who not only signed up but also paid their premium ) should be available by mid April.
    When it comes to matters of reproduce health, Politicians and the religious dogma of another faith should never interfere with religious liberty of an individual or her faith.

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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    According to the article I linked to the final count of enrollments ( those who not only signed up but also paid their premium ) should be available by mid April.
    Should be....they've been saying that since it opened...."should be available by..." and it's never proven true. Along with everything else said by the administration about this circus.

    How many times must you be lied to before you realize you're being lied to?
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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Should be....they've been saying that since it opened...."should be available by..." and it's never proven true. ....
    The number of people enrolled in the ACA was 4.2 million by the end of Feb.
    We will find out in a few weeks if we know the final numbers.
    Last edited by minnie616; 03-30-14 at 11:46 AM. Reason: 4.2 million
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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    The number of people enrolled in the ACA was 4.2 million by the end of Feb.
    We will find out in a few weeks if we know the final numbers.
    Not all of which were originally uninsured, nor any where close to the 32-42 million supposedly uninsured this was supposed to help.
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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Not all of which were originally uninsured, nor any where close to the 32-42 million supposedly uninsured this was supposed to help.
    It was always predicted that only a small portion would sign up the first year. As penalties for uninsured are collected and start to increase a larger percentage of the uninsured should sign up in the following years.
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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    I guess many were not aware that
    most of us who do have health insurance have been paying for the uninsured even before Obamacare was passed.


    No one can guarantee that he or she will not need healthcare, and most people without insurance are unable to pay for the care they receive. As a result, they shift those costs to the rest of us, either because the government picks up the tab or because hospitals required to treat the sick regardless of ability to pay pass on the costs to others in higher fees.
    The uninsured thereby shift about $43 billion in costs each year to the rest of us, increasing the average premium for insured families by more than $1,000 a year..
    Why Obama's Healthcare Law Is Constitutional | The Nation
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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    You do realize 6 million is roughly 2% of the US population?

    What a milestone 2% after 8 months.... Do those numbers seem to you like US citizens are enthusiastic about Obamacare?
    You do realize (more likely you don't) that ACA is responsible for almost three times that number of people getting coverage, don't you?

    That's right! 16.5 million people in just a few months.

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    My understanding was that something like 40 million people (numbers varied) didn't have medical insurance and the ACA was intended to cover them. That doesn't seem to be happening.

    Is my summation correct?
    No, it's not.

    In the first year, initial plans were to enroll 7 million in exchange plans and 9 million in Medicaid and CHIP, and not all of them would be people who had been previously uninsured

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Should be....they've been saying that since it opened...."should be available by..." and it's never proven true. Along with everything else said by the administration about this circus.

    How many times must you be lied to before you realize you're being lied to?
    Really? Do you have any links to the govt saying that the #'s you are referring to "should be available by" any date?

    Or are the lies you're referring to your own?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Not all of which were originally uninsured, nor any where close to the 32-42 million supposedly uninsured this was supposed to help.
    It was never meant to insure 32+ million uninsured in the first year.
    Last edited by sangha; 03-30-14 at 02:53 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    The number of people enrolled in the ACA was 4.2 million by the end of Feb.
    We will find out in a few weeks if we know the final numbers.
    How could they possibly not know these numbers now? Are they not using computers?

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    Re: Obamacare tops 6 million signups [W:263]

    Quote Originally Posted by minnie616 View Post
    I guess many were not aware that
    most of us who do have health insurance have been paying for the uninsured even before Obamacare was passed.


    Why Obama's Healthcare Law Is Constitutional | The Nation
    Do you realize that the uninsured expense isn't a federal expense but rather a state expense making this a state issue and not a federal issue? Of course that fact is ignored by supporters of Obamacare. Absolutely amazing how little so many know about the role of the Federal govt, the expenses generated, and the responsibilities of the individual. Please explain to me why we need to basically destroy the medical system we have to insure those many of whom choose not to purchase health insurance? Why do you continue to believe the Obama Administration lies?

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